Jodi Arias #4

Well this is Arizona not dippshit pinnnellas newfreakin agers even when there 89 there into friggin crystals

She was tottaly crushed her face fell an there was slkight trembbling in her jaw

CherokeeNative wrote:Yeah, but but but after CA - everyone was skeered it could happen again...

Yep, after CA everybody is gun shy.

I find it is interesting that 5 found premeditated murder only; and 7 found premediated and felony murder.

ABC News | Jodi Arias Convicted of First-Degree Murder
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ecossiepossie wrote:Well this is Arizona not dippshit pinnnellas newfreakin agers even when there 89 there into friggin crystals

ecossiepossie wrote:She was tottaly crushed her face fell an there was slkight trembbling in her jaw

Amen, Ecossie! This one was worth the wait.

CherokeeNative wrote:Yeah, but but but after CA - everyone was skeered it could happen again...

Yep, that's what had me worried. I hope that other jury watched this so they can see the big, big mistake they made.

Nan11 wrote:

ecossiepossie wrote:Well this is Arizona not dippshit pinnnellas newfreakin agers even when there 89 there into friggin crystals

ecossiepossie wrote:She was tottaly crushed her face fell an there was slkight trembbling in her jaw

Amen, Ecossie! This one was worth the wait.

Jodi honestly did not expect this verdict, she was in complete shock and couldn't hold back those tears. She will relive today over and over for many years to come.

Now the aggrevating circumstances comes into play. I bet Nurmi wont have too much to say. It's all over, the jury did not believe a word Jodi said. She will get the penalty that she deserves.

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I find it is interesting that 5 found premeditated murder only; and 7 found premediated and felony murder.

ABC News | Jodi Arias Convicted of First-Degree Murder
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You can visable see the worried look upon her face. Travis got the last word. Just look at how many lives she destroyed. The news said that she was able to meet with her family when she got back to the jail.

Just wait till she is all alone, no more court, no more seeing her family each and every day, no more hope, it will all sink in then.

No more seeing her family for months, maybe years on end. She will be in jail in AZ, they live in Yreka. Think they'll move to be near her?

In the aggravating circumstances phase I hope the jury get's to see what she put her parents through as a kid if they have to get on the stand and especially if they wind up trying to lie. None of this Anthony saga stuff. Nip it, nip it, nip it right now, as Barney Fife would say.

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Jodi will be interviewed tonight at 10pm EDT on FoxNews with Greta. I got the impression that it will either be live or at least after the verdict. You know she'll say something stupid so y'all tune in!

I just heard they have her on suicide watch.

And I'm really not sure I heard this correctly, but I think she said she would pray for each member of the jury.

Nan11 wrote:I find it is interesting that 5 found premeditated murder only; and 7 found premediated and felony murder.

What was the definition of felony murder again? I'm too lazy to go back and look...

Chickenbutt wrote:No more seeing her family for months, maybe years on end. She will be in jail in AZ, they live in Yreka. Think they'll move to be near her?

I'd say no, CB. Her father is so sick, and then her mom will be alone.

Her brothers and sisters are teenagers. One of them might move to be near her, but that's about all I can see.

Chickenbutt wrote:No more seeing her family for months, maybe years on end. She will be in jail in AZ, they live in Yreka. Think they'll move to be near her?

Nope!

Rest in Peace, Travis! After all the unnecessary and unfounded trashing they did of you, you can finally relax and know that justice was served!

Thank you, Juan Martinez! You rock!

Gizmo711 wrote:Now the aggrevating circumstances comes into play. I bet Nurmi wont have too much to say. It's all over, the jury did not believe a word Jodi said. She will get the penalty that she deserves.

This is where she should have argued temp insanity, emotional killing, whatever you want to call it. Now she can't very well argue that in an attempt to spare her life. She has to stick to her story of amnesia. She's in trouble.

Also we can now conclude that the so called experts who were afraid that the jury would support Jodi because Juan was a meanie were way off base. And anything Scheinlin said was bunk

Sea Ray wrote:What was the definition of felony murder again? I'm too lazy to go back and look...

I bumped this up for us, Sea Ray. I need a refresher. (Hope it is okay to do this.) Special thanks to CP!!!

CuriousPortlander wrote:Actually, I think there are only two categories of murder one, but the judge made it sound like they could vote for one, or the other, or both.

Here's what I had posted previously about the AZ jury instructions for murder 1:
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11.05 First Degree Premeditated Murder
The crime of first degree premeditated murder requires proof that the defendant:
1. caused the death of another person; and
2. intended or knew that [he] [she] would cause the death of another person; and
3. acted with premeditation.

“Premeditation” means that the defendant intended to kill another human being or knew [he] [she] would kill another human being, and that after forming that intent or knowledge, reflected on the decision before killing. It is this reflection, regardless of the length of time in which it occurs, that distinguishes first-degree murder from second degree murder. An act is not done with premeditation if it is the instant effect of a sudden quarrel or heat of passion. [The time needed for reflection is not necessarily prolonged, and the space of time between the intent or knowledge to kill and the act of killing may be very short.]

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11.052 −First-Degree Felony Murder
The crime of first-degree felony murder requires proof that:

1. The defendant [and another person] [and other persons] committed or attempted to commit [insert one of the offenses listed in A.R.S. § 13-1105(A)(2)]; and
   
2. In the course of and in furtherance of this crime or immediate flight from this crime, the defendant or another person caused the death of any person.

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If the court gives both the first-degree premeditated murder instruction and first-degree felony-murder instruction, the court should include the following in the instruction:

You must unanimously agree that the State has proven “first-degree murder” beyond a reasonable doubt before you may find the defendant guilty of “first-degree murder.” However, all of you do not have to agree on whether it was “premeditated murder” or “felony murder.”

The court also should include the following in the verdict form:
[Complete this portion of the verdict form only if you find the defendant “guilty” of “first-degree murder.”]

Please indicate the number of jurors who found beyond a reasonable doubt that the offense of “first-degree murder” was committed as follows:
_____ Premeditated murder
_____ Felony murder


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Thanks for bumping that, Nan. I was about to go back and find it.

Here are the AZ jury instructions for the next phase:

Capital Case 1.6(d) −Definition of “Especially Cruel, Heinous or Depraved”
Concerning this aggravating circumstance, all first-degree murders are to some extent heinous, cruel or depraved. However, this aggravating circumstance cannot be found to exist unless the State has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the murder was “especially” cruel, “especially” heinous, or “especially” depraved. “Especially” means “unusually great or significant.”

The terms “especially cruel,” or “especially heinous or depraved” are considere
d separately; therefore, the presence of any one circumstance is sufficient to establish this aggravating circumstance. However, to find that this aggravating circumstance is proven, you must find that “especially cruel” has been proven unanimously beyond a reasonable doubt or that “especially heinous or depraved” has been proven unanimously beyond a reasonable doubt.

Especially Cruel
The term “cruel” focuses on the victim’s pain and suffering. To find that the murder was committed in an “especially cruel”manner you must find that the victim consciously suffered physical or mental pain, distress or anguish prior to death. The defendant must know or should have known that the victim would suffer.

Especially Heinous or Depraved
The term “especially heinous or depraved” focuses upon the defendant’s state of mind at the time of the offense, as reflected by the defendant’s words and acts. A murder is especially heinous if it is hatefully or shockingly evil, in other words, grossly bad. A murder is especially depraved if it is marked by debasement, corruption, perversion or deterioration. To determine whether a murder was “especially heinous or depraved,” you must find that the State proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant exhibited such a mental state at the time of the killing by engaging in at least one of the following actions: [list only the options that apply]
1. Relished the murder; or
2. Inflicted gratuitous violence on the victim beyond that necessary to kill; or
3. Needlessly mutilated the victim’s body; or
4. The murder victim was a child and there was a parental or special [full-
time] [caregiver] relationship of trust between the victim and the defendant.

Relished the Murder
The defendant “relished the murder” if the defendant, by words or actions, savored the murder. These words or actions must show debasement or perversion, and not merely that the defendant has a vile state of mind or callous attitude. Statements suggesting indifference, as well as those reflecting the calculated plan to kill, satisfaction over the apparent success of the plan, extreme callousness, lack of remorse, or bragging after the murder are not enough unless there is evidence that the defendant actually relished the act of murder at or near the time of the killing.

Inflicted Gratuitous Violence
To find that the defendant “inflicted gratuitous violence,” you must find that the defendant intentionally inflicted violence clearly beyond what was necessary to kill the victim, and that the defendant continued to inflict this violence after the defendant knew or should have known that the [defendant had inflicted a fatal injury] [victim was dead].

Needless Mutilation
“Needlessly mutilating” means that the defendant, apart from the killing, committed acts after the victim’s death and separate from the acts that led to the death of the victim, with the intent to disfigure the victim’s body. “Needlessly mutilating” indicates a mental state marked by debasement.

Verdict Form
Even if you determine that “especially cruel” and “especially heinous or depraved” have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, you can only consider this as one aggravating circumstance, which is why you will find only one choice on the verdict form. There is an interrogatory on the verdict form that you must complete to set out your findings regarding “especially cruel” and/or “especially heinous or depraved”.

A unanimous finding of “especially cruel” and/or “especially heinous or depraved” establishes this aggravating circumstance.

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This girl is such a manipulator. In her interview right after the verdict she said she hoped that Travis' family could now, quote: "Remember him the way they want to."

And she said she would rather die than live the rest of her life in prison.

Apparently this can come in during the sentencing phrase.

(I heard there was a big argument with her lawyers. Maybe they didn't want this for that reason.)

CuriousPortlander wrote:Thanks for bumping that, Nan. I was about to go back and find it.

Here are the AZ jury instructions for the next phase:

Especially Cruel
The term “cruel” focuses on the victim’s pain and suffering. To find that the murder was committed in an “especially cruel”manner you must find that the victim consciously suffered physical or mental pain, distress or anguish prior to death. The defendant must know or should have known that the victim would suffer.

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I don't see how Mr. Martinez will have any trouble proving this.

With 7 of the jurors going for both premediated and felony murder, I would say that the jury may really bring back the death penalty, (when that part comes.)

For real Sea Ray?
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Sea Ray wrote:DVR Alert:

Must see TV

Jodi will be interviewed tonight at 10pm EDT on FoxNews with Greta. I got the impression that it will either be live or at least after the verdict. You know she'll say something stupid so y'all tune in!

My goodness, she is even accusing the state of withholding evidence.

She is probably referring to the letters that she forged. lol

All watCH zimman he wont be able to stand as stoic an hold back as jodiarrias Once his chin starts a trembling like jodis.
It will start up a ripple efect a tusanmi of wobbling chins like a big jelly on a plate an wont be a single tear rolling down his cheek niara falls an so will he as his knees buckle medic defif ONE TWO THREE .....cLEAR........

One Wonders wrote:For real Sea Ray?
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I luv your 'cuffs,' One. They look grrreat!.