Jodi Arias #4

ellejay wrote:

ishi wrote:

Sea Ray wrote:

Nan11 wrote:I think the more important issue for tonight is the coming mitigation/penalty phase--as it specifically relates to the murderer Jodi Arias.

I have edit privileges, and I have a ban button that I'm itching to use.

Fine. I think the jury will vote to give her life. What do you think?

Death. They will give her death.

--agree "ishi".

--the DP exists for those who have committed especially heinous crimes . (fake) crying about it now (after being caught/and convicted) or saying a heartfelt "i'm sorry" (which she hasn't brought herself to do) doesn't count.

--she planned it out, drove 1000 miles (and did not change her evil mind) and then slaughtered/butchered a fellow human being.

--she qualifies.

--I hope she gets it , her fake "I want the DP" was nothing more than the usual lies from her, she'll be all alone in her little crappy cell w/ no one but her pathetic self for company. one day they'll finally be able to say that she's gone crazy, and it will be true.

--she deserves it.

ecossiepossie wrote:So is it death phase today?
An will Jaun have further arguments for the Jury to consider?

LiveLaughLove wrote:I think torture her on death row for the long appeals. Then it could get overturned to LWOP, something she claims she doesn't want.

Sea Ray wrote:

LiveLaughLove wrote:I think torture her on death row for the long appeals. Then it could get overturned to LWOP, something she claims she doesn't want.

Yes, I agree. This would be the ideal scenario.

For her to be put to death, not only will the jury have to go for it, 12-0; the judge will have to go for it. All appeals will have to support it as well as the Governor now and later

Gizmo711 wrote:But don't forget that Jodi had done this to other boyfriends (just not the murder part). I don't agree with what you say, I don't see where Travis was anything but a healthy young 30 year old man with a appetite for women. He didn't think Jodi was marriage material, he didn't lead her on, he made it very clear to her that he wasn't going to marry her. I do not believe for a moment that Travis ever put a hand on her. It was Jodi that couldn't take the rejection. If everyone out here acted as Jodi did when rejected, there wouldn't be much of a population.

No other person has ever said anything about Travis that wasn't kind, he was spoken very highly of. Jodi was just the "fatal attraction" that everyone tries to stay clear of. However, at times they do slip into our lives without warning.

They say that abused women stay in relationships because they don't know how to get out of it. Well this was a case where Travis didn't know how to completely get Jodi out of his life. She gained access to him when ever she wanted, she snuck up on him and he did fear her. She slashed his tires on two occasions, that should have given him the sense to know she was dangerous, but I think that he thouight that he could handle it.'

No, I do not think for a minute that Travis was anything but a complete gentleman towards all women. Jodi just thinks that she is so fabulous that no man should turn her away especially one that she had an obsession with, because she certainly did not love him. It was Jodi that turned him on to all that different type of sex, she thought that it should win him over completely, but it didn't, he wanted a good girl to marry, not a slut and a three hole wonder.

Nan11 wrote:

Gizmo711 wrote:But don't forget that Jodi had done this to other boyfriends (just not the murder part). I don't agree with what you say, I don't see where Travis was anything but a healthy young 30 year old man with a appetite for women. He didn't think Jodi was marriage material, he didn't lead her on, he made it very clear to her that he wasn't going to marry her. I do not believe for a moment that Travis ever put a hand on her. It was Jodi that couldn't take the rejection. If everyone out here acted as Jodi did when rejected, there wouldn't be much of a population.

No other person has ever said anything about Travis that wasn't kind, he was spoken very highly of. Jodi was just the "fatal attraction" that everyone tries to stay clear of. However, at times they do slip into our lives without warning.

They say that abused women stay in relationships because they don't know how to get out of it. Well this was a case where Travis didn't know how to completely get Jodi out of his life. She gained access to him when ever she wanted, she snuck up on him and he did fear her. She slashed his tires on two occasions, that should have given him the sense to know she was dangerous, but I think that he thouight that he could handle it.'

No, I do not think for a minute that Travis was anything but a complete gentleman towards all women. Jodi just thinks that she is so fabulous that no man should turn her away especially one that she had an obsession with, because she certainly did not love him. It was Jodi that turned him on to all that different type of sex, she thought that it should win him over completely, but it didn't, he wanted a good girl to marry, not a slut and a three hole wonder.

I agree with you, Giz.

If Arias had entered any other plea but self-defense, none of her lies would have been admissible. None. Making her lies admissible was also the sole reason she took the stand.

There is nothing about repeatedly stabbing someone in the back, nearly decapitating them in a sawing motion, and eventually shooting them in the face that would point any reasonably minded person towards a defense of self-defense.

Enter a ‘paid for hire’ domestic violence expert and a couple of psychologists with questionable records to try to assist the defendant—today a convicted murderer—with her lies.

The defense could have had the supposedly broken finger x-rayed—and showed us the physical proof of the x-ray, but they didn’t. Why?

The state had proof that Arias, herself, forged the letters alleging pedophilia—but the judge ruled to not allow it in as it would have been considered ‘too prejudicial’ to Arias.

We know Travis lost his temper and he called her names. Okay. Bad Travis. Does that make people feel better? I challenge them to look through their own past to see if they have ever uttered a word in anger. And to see if they feel they may have had a reason for doing such.

He took pictures of her behind—to put it mildly. Who is to say she didn’t stick it up there and ask him to take the picture? She wore braids and he liked them. Does this mean he forced her to braid her hair? Or was it all her idea?

We heard the voice of a sexually aroused male that was and had been schooled by a manipulating, experienced she devil. He was following her lead. She asked him to repeat certain ‘strategic’ words. Why?

In whose mind did the idea of the school girl originate? From Arias’ own mouth while she was on the witness stand in her own defense, we heard how much she enjoyed dressing up as a sluty little school girl. She enjoyed it, she enjoyed it all. Remember how she smirked at Mr. Martinez as she corrected him and directed him to use the word ‘giz’ for what was on her face.

The defense played the best card they had, and that was to trash the victim with only words out of the lying mouth of Arias for evidence.

Travis was a 30 something year old man that enjoyed sex out of wedlock. That is considered a sin in his church, but not in society.

Travis was not a saint. He was human being that should be alive today--enjoying and struggling through life like all the rest of us imperfect human beings.

Arias has threaten suicide and romanticized over it since she was a kid. She is in love with the idea. She feels it will give her the last word; a final victory. If she is ever successful it will not be because of what Travis did to her; but because of what she did to him.

Once again, I applaud the jury for their verdict.

Gizmo711 wrote:I think there is a good chance that she will get the DP. This jury seen how manipulative Jodi can be. The jury heard her lies and how she demonized Travis. Jodi is the devil himself in disguise. She actually did beg for the death sentence when she murdered Travis in cold blood.

She can talk about how this will impact her life and her families life, she can talk about how she wanted to protect Travis' image, she can say anything she well pleases, but it wont make a bit of difference. No one believed her lies about Travis, there was not one shred of evidence to back up anything she stated. All she was doing was killing Travis all over again and trying to hurt his family as much as she could possibly do.

Jodi convinced no one but herself, she will rot in prison for the rest of her natural life until she gets that needle, then she will feel the fear that she put to Travis. Jodi has a long hard road ahead of her which ever way she wants to see it, and she knows it, and it's well deserved.

She took a good man off this earth and replaced herself on death row. If I were her I wouldn't be begging to meet my maker because she darn well wont be meeting him because she is going straight to hell for what she did.

Nan11 wrote:I agree with you, Giz.

If Arias had entered any other plea but self-defense, none of her lies would have been admissible. None. Making her lies admissible was also the sole reason she took the stand.

There is nothing about repeatedly stabbing someone in the back, nearly decapitating them in a sawing motion, and eventually shooting them in the face that would point any reasonably minded person towards a defense of self-defense.

Enter a ‘paid for hire’ domestic violence expert and a couple of psychologists with questionable records to try to assist the defendant—today a convicted murderer—with her lies.

The defense could have had the supposedly broken finger x-rayed—and shown us the physical proof of the x-ray, but they didn’t. Why?

The state had proof that Arias, herself, forged the letters alleging pedophilia—but the judge ruled to not allow it in as it would have been considered ‘too prejudicial’ to Arias.

We know Travis lost his temper and he called her names. Okay. Bad Travis. Does that make people feel better? I challenge them to look through their own past to see if they have ever uttered a word in anger. And to see if they feel they may have had a reason for doing such.

He took pictures of her behind—to put it mildly. Who is to say she didn’t stick it up there and ask him to take the picture? She wore braids and he liked them. Does this mean he forced her to braid her hair? Or was it all her idea?

We heard the voice of a sexually aroused male that was and had been schooled by a manipulating, experienced she devil. He was following her lead. She asked him to repeat certain ‘strategic’ words. Why?

In whose mind did the idea of the school girl originate? From Arias’ own mouth while she was on the witness stand in her own defense, we heard how much she enjoyed dressing up as a sluty little school girl. She enjoyed it, she enjoyed it all. Remember how she smirked at Mr. Martinez as she corrected him and directed him to use the word ‘giz’ for what was on her face.

The defense played the best card they had, and that was to trash the victim with only words out of the lying mouth of Arias for evidence.

Travis was a 30 something year old man that enjoyed sex out of wedlock. That is considered a sin in his church, but not in society.

Travis was not a saint. He was human being that should be alive today--enjoying and struggling through life like all the rest of us imperfect human beings.

Arias has threaten suicide and romanticized over it since she was a kid. She is in love with the idea. She feels it will give her the last word; a final victory. If she is ever successful it will not be because of what Travis did to her; but because of what she did to him.

Once again, I applaud the jury for their verdict.

Gizmo711 wrote:I think there is a good chance that she will get the DP. This jury seen how manipulative Jodi can be. The jury heard her lies and how she demonized Travis. Jodi is the devil himself in disguise. She actually did beg for the death sentence when she murdered Travis in cold blood.

She can talk about how this will impact her life and her families life, she can talk about how she wanted to protect Travis' image, she can say anything she well pleases, but it wont make a bit of difference. No one believed her lies about Travis, there was not one shred of evidence to back up anything she stated. All she was doing was killing Travis all over again and trying to hurt his family as much as she could possibly do.

Jodi convinced no one but herself, she will rot in prison for the rest of her natural life until she gets that needle, then she will feel the fear that she put to Travis. Jodi has a long hard road ahead of her which ever way she wants to see it, and she knows it, and it's well deserved.

She took a good man off this earth and replaced herself on death row. If I were her I wouldn't be begging to meet my maker because she darn well wont be meeting him because she is going straight to hell for what she did.

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Court minutes..

Jodi's counsel moves to recuse themselves...Denied

Jodi's counsel moves for victim impact statements by video...Denied

Jodi is no longer able to do any more interviews by order of the Judge and Sheriff's office agrees...

What will a girl do?

ellejay wrote:

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Court minutes..

Jodi's counsel moves to recuse themselves...Denied

Jodi's counsel moves for victim impact statements by video...Denied

Jodi is no longer able to do any more interviews by order of the Judge and Sheriff's office agrees...

What will a girl do?

--thanks LLL.

--her motion for 'discovery of victim impact evidence' (they wanted the names of counsellor's that Travis's family has spoken with/and their notes etc..)------also Denied.

One Wonders wrote:Holy Cow!
JA's attorney's want of the case at the 11th hour???
How is this going to fare for appeals?
My mind is just spinning!

Gizmo711 wrote:

One Wonders wrote:Holy Cow!
JA's attorney's want of the case at the 11th hour???
How is this going to fare for appeals?
My mind is just spinning!

I don't think they can get off the case now, they will probably have to wait until this segment is over. They were paid big dollars to represent her, I don't think they can back out now. However, later, for any appeals, they don't have to do it. I think anyway