Jodi Arias #1

Chickenbutt wrote:Not a crime.....a sin. There are "fallen" souls in all religions. IF he had fallen, he had the opportunity to redeem himself and move back into the Mormon lifestyle.

True that...... :)

Even though i am not an expert on religions, especially the Mormon one.....

I didn't mind Romney though, even though he lost ...

Jodi Arias: Cold-blooded killer or victim?

The Jodi Arias Trial: A tumultuous relationship leads to a man's brutal murder, multiple stories by his ex-girlfriend and a trial made for tabloids

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Duration: 13:02
Date: Jan 25, 2013

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Hi, Everyone: :)

Sorry that I couldn't reply to each of you directly. I'm having some issues with my ISP, and I think my eyes. The speed is very slow and the screen keeps going up & down which does NOT help my eye problems at all. Is it my imagination, or does anyone else have problems with AT&T U-verse? This slow speed is very frustrating!!!!!! I am stuck with them for the time being, unfortunately.

Inside Jodi Arias’ Life Behind Bars

by Greta Van Susteren Posted in: crime, Jodi Arias, ON THE RECORD, ON THE RECORD at 10pm

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Posted: January 26, 8:30 am ET

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Chickenbutt wrote:Not a crime.....a sin. There are "fallen" souls in all religions. IF he had fallen, he had the opportunity to redeem himself and move back into the Mormon lifestyle.

I agree 100% CB! And it sounds to me that this is exactly what he was trying to do.

I think it is fair to say that most of us fall at some point in our lives--we are all only imperfect humans.

Travis appeared to be doing everthing he possibly could to politely get rid of Arias, and get his life back on track. He had tried gentle rebuffs, he had tired distance, he had tried firmer words. Sadly--once she realized that he did not want her as a wife--she drove thousands of miles to brutally murder him.

He let her in and fell once again--however briefly--for her sultry charms because she put it out there. She was the agressor.

Unknown to him, she had decided that if she couldn't have him, no-one else was going to. And she made sure of it.

Travis showed himself to be an innately decent and caring individual in the way he tried to handle their break up.

Many, many men would have fallen victim to her all too easily offered 'charms.'

One of the things her 'ex' said about the supposedly broken finger was that it affected her ability to draw. Really? Her art looks pretty decent and is selling fairly well, I note.

if that truly happened, it would have been 4 years ago or longer by now ... - i am sure by now it already healed or gotten better :)

Booklover444 wrote:Hi, Everyone: :)

Sorry that I couldn't reply to each of you directly. I'm having some issues with my ISP, and I think my eyes. The speed is very slow and the screen keeps going up & down which does NOT help my eye problems at all. Is it my imagination, or does anyone else have problems with AT&T U-verse? This slow speed is very frustrating!!!!!! I am stuck with them for the time being, unfortunately.

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I can't offer any input on your service provider, as I'm not at all experienced with that particular one. It sounds like it could be responsible for some of your problems, though.

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Darkman wrote:if that truly happened, it would have been 4 years ago or longer by now ... - i am sure by now it already healed or gotten better :)

Yes. But on the blog he made it seem like it was something that would affect her the rest of her life. imo

Hi, Nan11: :)

I appreciate your input, and your kindness. I'm glad you like my signature line. I also love your use of Emoticons. I like using them too. They are adorable. I especially love the one I just used. Oh, my God! I just heard Jodi Arias say on one of her interview tapes that she was worried about her reputation. I'm so glad I wasn't eating at the time. I would have lost my lunch for sure. I really hate hearing her say that "no Jury will convict me, mark my words".

Sorry that I couldn't reply to each of you directly. I'm having some issues with my ISP, and I think my eyes. The speed is very slow and the screen keeps going up & down which does NOT help my eye problems at all. Is it my imagination, or does anyone else have problems with AT&T U-verse? This slow speed is very frustrating!!!!!! I am stuck with them for the time being, unfortunately.[/quote]
I'm sorry to hear about your eye problem. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I can't offer any input on your service provider, as I'm not at all experienced with that particular one. It sounds like it could be responsible for some of your problems, though.

No worries about responding to me, I just like to read your comments. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

(You have a great signature line!)[/quote][b]

Hi, Nan11: :)

I appreciate your input, and your kindness. I'm glad you like my signature line. I also love your use of Emoticons. I like using them too. They are adorable. I especially love the one I just used. Oh, my God! I just heard Jodi Arias say on one of her interview tapes that she was worried about her reputation. I'm so glad I wasn't eating at the time. I would have lost my lunch for sure. I really hate hearing her say that "no Jury will convict me, mark my words".

Sorry that I couldn't reply to each of you directly. I'm having some issues with my ISP, and I think my eyes. The speed is very slow and the screen keeps going up & down which does NOT help my eye problems at all. Is it my imagination, or does anyone else have problems with AT&T U-verse? This slow speed is very frustrating!!!!!! I am stuck with them for the time being, unfortunately.[/quote]
I'm sorry to hear about your eye problem. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I can't offer any input on your service provider, as I'm not at all experienced with that particular one. It sounds like it could be responsible for some of your problems, though.

No worries about responding to me, I just like to read your comments. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

(You have a great signature line!)[/quote][b]

Chickenbutt wrote:hey One.....Won't it be nice to have someone else who has a sense of humor? I just love goofy people....must be why I like you!

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It sure will CB and ditto on why I like you.

Booklover444 wrote:Hi, Nan11: :)

I appreciate your input, and your kindness. I'm glad you like my signature line. I also love your use of Emoticons. I like using them too. They are adorable. I especially love the one I just used. Oh, my God! I just heard Jodi Arias say on one of her interview tapes that she was worried about her reputation. I'm so glad I wasn't eating at the time. I would have lost my lunch for sure. I really hate hearing her say that "no Jury will convict me, mark my words".

BBM - We must have been watching the same program. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

IIRC, the prosecution actually played that for the jury. I don't think Arias fully understood at that moment that she was facing a death penalty charge.

I certainly hope her 'no jury will convict me' statement will not come true! The same with Nancy Grace's statement that the hiatus of the past week could favor the defense.

I guess we shall see.

BTW - I'm addicted to those smileys, too. Often I get my laugh for the day out of them. Here is one I think is really cute. He makes himself an origami dove.

What could be cuter? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Chickenbutt wrote:About TA's sexual proclivities.....fantasys are not a crime. If he wants to picture her in his head as a 12 y/o, go for it. He wants to be tied up, have at it.....who are we to say any of that is rong as long as he has a consensual, adult partner?

If broke up with someone ... just "be done with it" ... defuse the situation maybe, basically, and lose all the contact with the person.... --- instead of infusing it by maintaining contact with that person, calling her "whore" and such .. and telling her i want to tie you up to the tree in a deep forest where the sun doesn't shine and then give it to you as deep as the forest ... also, where the sun doesn't shine ... cuz you look as hot as 12 y/o .. oh! ah! ... HOT! ... etc

... not let her in for a day long "sex-marathon", with kinky photo-taking etc ... to relieve your stormin' tension until you are all weakened, sleepy or whatever... and then, basically, throw it to her face, that "tomorrow i am going to Mexico .. and i am NOT taking you with me .. but, rather, taking another woman .. So GET LOST now! ... while i am going to the shower to wash off some of your dirt (or however else it might seem to another party ... in their disturbed mind)...

Not the VERY BEST idea, you know....
Wanna break up with someone .. then break up .. and don't send the person coded messages to come over ("cuz i feel sleepy") after getting back from dates with other (clean) girls.
Meanwhile badmouthing her to his friends etc....

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Her goose is more likely cooked now anyhow ...
... And i feel sad for the entire situation .. for both of them actually ... WASTE OF TWO LIVES ... :((((

... it probably won't help her much now (even though, who knows, i got no clue what's in jurors' head) ... but watch some expert(s) in this area testify about what i said above .. and who knows what else they are going to "bring to the table" ... and state it to be an abuse (ya .. i know .. they are getting paid to say so, lol, .. but you know what i mean) .... ongoing, physical or emotional abuse ... or any other way you want to slice it (no pun intended).

it's always good to DEFUSE the situation ... not INFUSE it ... when want to end it with someone...

NOT taunt it to their face basically ... that "I am so successful and pure, king on top of the mountain .. and you are a loser, just one cheap dirty whore ... so come on over and blow me (literally speaking) .. blah blah blah"

NOT the best idea, you know .. cuz other party can go "coo-coo" (if not coo-coo already), feel scorned and do, who knows what to you some day

I am just saying..... so, no offence ... no trying to ... simply playing a devil's advocate, basically :)

Not a problem Darkman.....I see what you are saying and if TA treated her as such, then he had some maturing to do. But IMO, she holds just as much responsibility as he did. If he was just calling her for a booty call, then kicking her to the curb, then she needed to "woman up" and JUST SAY NO! So they both hold some responsibility, but no matter what happened bewtwen them and no matter how he treated her, he did not deserve what she did to him.
And I love the Devils advocate position.....always makes for interesting conversations.

Two lives wasted ... any way you look it ... or whoever you choose to play (devil's advocate, jury or an executioner) ... two gifted kids, so to speak ... WASTED :(

If she gets out, mind you, i wouldn't want to be her boyfriend ... lol .. :)

I agree with just about every aspect of this case. JA obviously has a mental condition, it may not be obvious to a naked eye, but it certainly exists. What she did was inhumane to say the least. She was scorned by Travis, but that should not have led up to what took place. JA does not need to be walking free in society, she has certainly shown what she is capable of doing.

I also see her as a very gifted human being, that probably could very well have become a famous artist, had she just threw herself into it instead of a man who didn't want her.

It's inexcusable that Travis put those things about her on the internet but certainly didn't warrant him being murdered for.

Too much of this goes on in this world today. Some people just cannot take rejection in any form. Murders like this take place every day but we just don't hear about them.

My heart goes out to both the families. I always say "I don't know what would be worse, to be the parent of the victim or the perp", both has to be horrible.

I hope JA remains behind bars for the rest of her life, she could very well do this again to an unsuspecting person.

I also hate to see such a gifted person as she waste her life like this. From the looks of her paintings/drawings, she could have very well become very famous. I bet her work is very much envied by some artists out here. She has one heck of an aability. It's just a sin all which ways around. She could have gotten any man she wanted and went places in life.

As for Travis, I don't blame him for saying some of the things he said about her. She did slice his tires, hack into his e-mail, break into his house, follow him every where he went and send nasty e-mails to his female friends. This would have made the average person mad enough to slash back with words that were not to kind.

I agree with "Darkman", two lives wasted needlessly.

I doubt she will ever get out of prison. This was so obviously NOT a self defense case, this was a killing of hate to say the least. stabbed 29 times, throat slashed, and shot in the head cannot be a self defense in any form what so ever, and I doubt that any jury will see it that way. (as long as they are not from Pineles County).

Hi, Nan11: :)

Every single time Jodi Arias opens her mouth BS comes spewing forth. Actually, she did tell the truth only one time that I know about. It was when she said that Travis was a really nice guy, and he would give you his last dollar if you needed it. Doesn't sound like an abuser to me! How about when she said that IF she had killed him, it would have been done in a much more humane way? She went on to say that she would have shot him over & over until he was dead, NOT stabbed him! Oh, God! I hope the men on that Jury are not thinking with what they have in their pants.

Yes. I just love those adorable emoticons too. They are just so much fun and cute too.

Nan11 wrote:

Booklover444 wrote:Hi, Nan11: :)

I appreciate your input, and your kindness. I'm glad you like my signature line. I also love your use of Emoticons. I like using them too. They are adorable. I especially love the one I just used. Oh, my God! I just heard Jodi Arias say on one of her interview tapes that she was worried about her reputation. I'm so glad I wasn't eating at the time. I would have lost my lunch for sure. I really hate hearing her say that "no Jury will convict me, mark my words".

BBM - We must have been watching the same program. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

IIRC, the prosecution actually played that for the jury. I don't think Arias fully understood at that moment that she was facing a death penalty charge.

I certainly hope her 'no jury will convict me' statement will not come true! The same with Nancy Grace's statement that the hiatus of the past week could favor the defense.

I guess we shall see.

BTW - I'm addicted to those smileys, too. Often I get my laugh for the day out of them. Here is one I think is really cute. He makes himself an origami dove.

What could be cuter? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Booklover444 wrote:Hi, Nan11: :)

Every single time Jodi Arias opens her mouth BS comes spewing forth. Actually, she did tell the truth only one time that I know about. It was when she said that Travis was a really nice guy, and he would give you his last dollar if you needed it. Doesn't sound like an abuser to me! How about when she said that IF she had killed him, it would have been done in a much more humane way? She went on to say that she would have shot him over & over until he was dead, NOT stabbed him! Oh, God! I hope the men on that Jury are not thinking with what they have in their pants.

Yes. I just love those adorable emoticons too. They are just so much fun and cute too.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Good morning, BL!

I must say that I agree. Perhaps there was one more time when she was hinting at the truth. That would be when she said he crawled on his hands and knees and said that he could not feel his legs.

How truly, truly tragic. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

You know, I went ahead and looked at all the pictures. Granted I don't have much experience, but I don't believe I have ever seen an act perpetrated upon one human being by another that was so cruelly executed.

Had the tables been turned and it was Travis stalking and disrupting Jodi's life, society would have taken a much sterner view of the stalking actions.

Instead, the victim--who you might say was tortured and murder three times over, plus left to decompose in a cold shower stall--will go on trial in a court of law on Tuesday. He has already been on trial in the eyes of the public.

Any mistake he ever made will be scrutinized. All in an attempt to set free the one who decided that Travis had to die, or to give her a light sentence so she can create and profit from her artwork. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Hi, Nan11:

You are absolutely right. I completely AGREE with everything you've said in your post. In parts of her interrogation, she was actually reliving the murder. She was telling how he died without admitting that she killed him. I hate the way the Criminal Defense Team has been trashing Travis, and it's only going to get worse. Oh, God! I am so emotionally involved in this case just as I was in the Casey Anthony case. Casey Anthony & Jodi Arias are two of a kind, cut from the same mold. I still cannot come to terms with Casey Anthony getting away with killing Caylee.

Jodi Arias is beyond evil. Her eyes are vacant as if she has no soul. She has a very creepy smile. I don't understand why people keep saying that she's beautiful or "smoking hot". Don't these people remember that she completely destroyed another human being in the most heinous way possible? I can't help it, but, I do have to be graphic on this one. I think the only reason she didn't cut off Travis's penis is because she was too exhausted from her previous handiwork. How in the Hell do you have a sexual marathon with someone and then "slaughter" them immediately afterwards? God forbid, but, if she is found "not guilty", any man she comes in contact with is in serious danger. She is a major psychopath/sociopath and will kill again & again if given the opportunity.

There is no doubt in my mind that Jodi was stalking Travis. I just wish he would have reported it.

Although there are no simularities in the CA case to this one, you can see the way the lies are sprewed out the same way. The same in the Scott Peterson case. What is scary is that these sociopaths are running loose in our society and they are hard to detect from normal people.

I just cannot imagine how many like this are walking around capable of murdering without batting an eyelash.

Outright scary

Hi, Gizmo711:

I agree with you. The two cases are completely different. However, I do think that Casey Anthony & Jodi Arias are very much alike. I believe they are both psychopaths/sociopaths and very dangerous to all those unfortunate enough to come in contact with them. I also can't help but wonder about the people who support them. Those are people that I certainly don't want to be around. I don't, in any way, shape or form support or make excuses for cold-blooded murderers.

Gizmo711 wrote:There is no doubt in my mind that Jodi was stalking Travis. I just wish he would have reported it.

Although there are no simularities in the CA case to this one, you can see the way the lies are sprewed out the same way. The same in the Scott Peterson case. What is scary is that these sociopaths are running loose in our society and they are hard to detect from normal people.

I just cannot imagine how many like this are walking around capable of murdering without batting an eyelash.

Outright scary

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Booklover444 wrote:Hi, Nan11:

You are absolutely right. I completely AGREE with everything you've said in your post. In parts of her interrogation, she was actually reliving the murder. She was telling how he died without admitting that she killed him. I hate the way the Criminal Defense Team has been trashing Travis, and it's only going to get worse. Oh, God! I am so emotionally involved in this case just as I was in the Casey Anthony case. Casey Anthony & Jodi Arias are two of a kind, cut from the same mold. I still cannot come to terms with Casey Anthony getting away with killing Caylee.

Jodi Arias is beyond evil. Her eyes are vacant as if she has no soul. She has a very creepy smile. I don't understand why people keep saying that she's beautiful or "smoking hot". Don't these people remember that she completely destroyed another human being in the most heinous way possible? I can't help it, but, I do have to be graphic on this one. I think the only reason she didn't cut off Travis's penis is because she was too exhausted from her previous handiwork. How in the Hell do you have a sexual marathon with someone and then "slaughter" them immediately afterwards? God forbid, but, if she is found "not guilty", any man she comes in contact with is in serious danger. She is a major psychopath/sociopath and will kill again & again if given the opportunity.

I, too, spent countless hours following that other case. I cannot even bring myself to type her name; I will not let my mind formulate it. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

With Arias' case--as with the other one--people seem to be only looking at the surface. The physical 'picture' of the beautiful and young woman, if you will.

It seems to be that we are stuck on a false ideology of the way women should be. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Personally, I see no physical beauty in either of these women. (That is one little thing I like about Nancy Grace--she doesn't see the 'beauty' either.)

I must admit, I have wondered about why Arias chose to leave the penis in place. My thoughts went to possibly because it had brought her much pleasure, unlike the person she felt was attached to it.

If this one walks, too--any man that is stupid enough to fall for her false, shallow, and superficial 'charms' will well deserve what he gets.

Unlike Travis--who may have had an inkling of what lay beneath the surface; but who really was an innocent when it came to the fury of an inhuman female psycopath/sociopath scorned.

Bless him and bless his family, and may justice prevail in some small measure. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

I can't help but wonder if you have seen this:

Coming Monday on Dr. Drew Pinsky’s HLN show: Jose Baez will analyze the Jodi Arias case and explain what he thinks the defense must do to win.
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Hi, Nan11:

Oh, we agree on so many things. Did you hear that Travis tried to get Jodi Arias out of his life completely numerous times? However, each & every time he tried she threatened suicide. He couldn't live with that on his conscience. That is why he allowed her to remain in his life. I can imagine she was like a major case of diarrhea that kept returning. The fact that he loved sex as most men do, SHOULD NOT be used against him in Court. My heart breaks for his family. Their lives are completely destroyed thanks to this vicious, vile, vindictive & venomous psychopath. I enjoy watching Dr. Drew, however, I cannot stand the sight of Jose Baez. I'm afraid to watch him as he just might give me a bad case of diarrhea.

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I must say that I agree. Perhaps there was one more time when she was hinting at the truth. That would be when she said he crawled on his hands and knees and said that he could not feel his legs.

I was just going to bring this up. I hope the jury remembers this as I think it is such a key point. I'd bet my last penny he was begging her to help him and she just kept doing what she was doing to end his life. Another thing that crosses my mind is I wonder if she was taunting him when he was in that position. Torture, just pure torture.

Good grief!!! You people are fast and I can't stay up with you, lol. I have to go cook anyway so I'll be back later.