Re: Jodi Arias #4

by Nan11 Fri May 17, 2013 12:04 am

ellejay wrote:--I have no idea but I do know---the family had absolutely none of their expenses "covered" throughout trial.

--they not only gave up monetarily, they gave up time w/ their kids/grandchildren/families, turned down promotions in the workplace--etc-----dedicated to BE THERE for Travis, and sit through the tears/the trashing to see justice done.

--some very kind people set up donation sites to help them out, multitudes came through w/ $$'s, cards of support, prayers.....and sam & tanisha have endeavoured to thank each and everyone personally.

--Travis had a dream to change the world, set an example of GOOD... his family can be so proud of his legacy, and themselves.

Beautifully said!! Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 713145813

by Chickenbutt Fri May 17, 2013 12:07 am

I agree Elle...they were the epitome of class today.

by CherokeeNative Fri May 17, 2013 12:35 am

optio wrote:
Chickenbutt wrote:Seeings how none of them live in AZ, I'm sure they are racking up the expenses
If they are to testify in court, their expenses aren't covered? By the State or from Defense account?

No - they may be receiving something from the Victim's fund, but it is mere pennies compared to what it is costing them as well as losing their wages. They will be able to file a victim's impact statement that also includes their costs - including the funeral for Travis - their travel expenses and lost wages. Then Jodi will work for .43 per hour to pay them back each month - unless she is put on death row - and then she won't be working.

by Chickenbutt Fri May 17, 2013 12:38 am

I was talking about the witnesses there to speak for Jodi.....are they being paid out of a defense fund? Or are they coolin their heels at their own expense due to the delay?

by ColoCali Fri May 17, 2013 12:48 am

+1

I also would like to know!

by optio Fri May 17, 2013 12:56 am

Chickenbutt wrote:I was talking about the witnesses there to speak for Jodi.....are they being paid out of a defense fund? Or are they coolin their heels at their own expense due to the delay?

Yes. I was talking about Jodi's witnesses who will speak for her as well.

by CherokeeNative Fri May 17, 2013 1:02 am

Chickenbutt wrote:I was talking about the witnesses there to speak for Jodi.....are they being paid out of a defense fund? Or are they coolin their heels at their own expense due to the delay?

If they are like California and Washington, they are only getting their statutory witness fees which is around the neighborhood of $35-45 per day. If they are expert witnesses, that is an entirely different story - but if they are just lay witnesses, they are only entitled to the statutory fee. Doesn't go very far if you are having to stay in a hotel, etc.

by Chickenbutt Fri May 17, 2013 1:04 am

Thank you....g'nite

by optio Fri May 17, 2013 1:04 am

Wonder if Arias' friend can stay with her mother...

by Nan11 Fri May 17, 2013 1:05 am

optio wrote:
Chickenbutt wrote:I was talking about the witnesses there to speak for Jodi.....are they being paid out of a defense fund? Or are they coolin their heels at their own expense due to the delay?
Yes. I was talking about Jodi's witnesses who will speak for her as well.

I came across this.

Will I be paid for my time spent as a witness?
You will receive a $40 witness fee for each day your are required to be in court, or attend a pretrial interview, including travel days. You will not be reimbursed for lost wages. In addition, all legitimate travel expenses related to your testimony will be paid for or reimbursed by the government. You will be reimbursed for travel by the least expensive method available. If your testimony requires you to travel by plane or stay overnight, your travel will be arranged through the government travel agency and your airfare and lodging costs will be paid directly by the government. DO NOT MAKE ANY TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS UNTIL YOU HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. IF YOU MAKE YOUR OWN TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH THE USAO, WE MAY BE UNABLE TO REIMBURSE YOU IN FULL FOR YOUR COSTS.

You will be reimbursed for mileage, taxi fare, tolls, and parking. If two or more witnesses travel in the same privately owned vehicle, only one reimbursement for mileage will be made. You will also receive a standard per diem to cover your food costs. The per diem in Seattle is $35.50 for travel days and $71.00 for full days. The per diem in Tacoma is $30.50 for travel days and $61.00 for full days. IF YOU TRAVEL TO COURT AND RETURN HOME THE SAME DAY, YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE THE PER DIEM. You will be provided with a form when you testify which you will use to claim reimbursement for your expenses. You will receive payment by mail. Please contact the Victim-Witness Program staff to determine your specific entitlement under the law.
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by optio Fri May 17, 2013 1:13 am

Thanks you, Nan11.

They get more than we thought. Good to know! Laughing

by Nan11 Fri May 17, 2013 1:15 am

optio wrote:Thanks you, Nan11.

They get more than we thought. Good to know!

Well, I'm not sure how up-to-date or anything that is. Now that you mention it, I didn't notice a date.

by Nan11 Fri May 17, 2013 1:20 am

Just an FYI to everyone:

Please feel free to make a comment on this thread after you vote in our poll.

All comments are welcome as long as they pertain to any aspect of the Arias case.

Politely, of course. Laughing

Also, if you have any suggestions for a poll you would like to see--give me a shout!!

by ellejay Fri May 17, 2013 3:46 am

Nan11 wrote:Just an FYI to everyone:

Please feel free to make a comment on this thread after you vote in our poll.

All comments are welcome as long as they pertain to any aspect of the Arias case.

Politely, of course.

Also, if you have any suggestions for a poll you would like to see--give me a shout!!

--thank you nan. I had forgotten to vote in the poll.

--I voted "no".

--if by some stroke of luck! she was going to be led off soon, then yeah, she'd still have that non stop narcissism going, and would want to go out looking her best.

--except, she will rot away, alone, for years on DR (should the jury sentence her to the DP) and by the time it's "her turn" she will be old, wrinkled, and basically crazed/pissed off. she won't even remember what make up was.

by Gizmo711 Fri May 17, 2013 5:29 am

Chickenbutt wrote:Her dildo won't have a heartbeat when she meets Ms Bubba.....did I just say that ?

Yes you did and I have the proof. Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 2672159185

( but I don't think their allowed in prison, she'll have to sneak it in)

by Gizmo711 Fri May 17, 2013 5:36 am

ellejay wrote:
Nan11 wrote:Just an FYI to everyone:

Please feel free to make a comment on this thread after you vote in our poll.

All comments are welcome as long as they pertain to any aspect of the Arias case.

Politely, of course.

Also, if you have any suggestions for a poll you would like to see--give me a shout!!

--thank you nan. I had forgotten to vote in the poll.

--I voted "no".

--if by some stroke of luck! she was going to be led off soon, then yeah, she'd still have that non stop narcissism going, and would want to go out looking her best.

--except, she will rot away, alone, for years on DR (should the jury sentence her to the DP) and by the time it's "her turn" she will be old, wrinkled, and basically crazed/pissed off. she won't even remember what make up was.

I agree. But at this point, i'm just so glad that she was found guilty of first degree that I don't care one way or the other. Jodi knows she will never be a free woman. It may take years for the DP but she is incarcerated in one room, she wont want to look in the mirror, because she is going to look like hell. She knows her life is over and she showed the stress when she heard that verdict. Look at what she looks like in only a couple of days of knowing, wait for a couple of years. Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 1627671162

. I wonder if she will ask to fix herself up before execution? Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 3366279209

by Gizmo711 Fri May 17, 2013 7:29 am

The media is trying to figure out if Jodi's tears were real in court yesterday. Of course they were real, she can very easily make herself cry, all she has to think about is that "guilty" verdict and the tears will come for herself and what in her future.

Jodi does not feel one ounce of sorrow for what she did to Travis. But she darn well knows that her life is over.

I believe that her mother wanted to get on the stand, but she was probably advised against it because of of the mitigating factors is that Jodi had no support from her family, therefore if her mother was to get up there and beg for her daughters life it will screw up one of the mitigating (and they don't have much to begin with).

by Febbie Fri May 17, 2013 7:32 am

Chickenbutt wrote:Her dildo won't have a heartbeat when she meets Ms Bubba.....did I just say that ?

Yep, you did, but where she is going to be there will be no dildo's, she only can dream. Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 3638472405

by LiveLaughLove Fri May 17, 2013 9:39 am

Good morning Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 1449507023

Another postponement...surely the never ending trial. This judge doesn't have any compassion for respect for those jurors, who's lives have been on hold for over 5 months...

Listening to Jinx on HLN yesterday, Jodie's childhood friend, Patti Womack did not want her face shown on TV, now it appears, she is not going to testify..

Darryl Brewer who objected to his face being shown while testifying, is now okay with his face being shown. Wonder why the change of heart?

It appears her mother will not testify on Jodi's behalf...unless things change by Monday.

I also heard that Jodi will speak of her art work (traced art work of others) and how she will sell them and give all proceeds to DV victims. I think this should be nixed...if this is the only good example Jodi has to offer, they might want to waive this part of the trial and go right to sentencing..it's not going to bode well with those jurors..

I also took note that counsel for the defense, Nurmi's hearts not in this anymore and is just going through the motions. I noted from Willmott, when the victim impact statements and photos were being displayed, Willmott looked at them with disgust. Was it due to her believing that Jodi was a DV survivor of Travis or was it due to seeing now what a good hearted, compassionate man with a future was slaughtered beyond comprehension?

My heart just ached for Steven and Samantha and was unaware how this affected him and his personal life with his wife and child. I know all to well how someone can go on a downward spiral after the murder of a loved one. I had those same questions Steven did. What were my brother's last moments like? Did he suffer much? What was the last thing he saw and what went through his mind..I'll never get those answers either..

Samantha who is in LE said, she never in her 11 years on the force seen such a gruesome crime scene..it's etched in her mind forever...

My heart goes out to this family...

by LiveLaughLove Fri May 17, 2013 10:08 am

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Uh, Oh...not a good character witness.... Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 160683007

I guess she couldn't withstand Juan's cross... Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 2672159185

by Nan11 Fri May 17, 2013 11:12 am

ellejay wrote:--thank you nan. I had forgotten to vote in the poll.

--I voted "no".

--if by some stroke of luck! she was going to be led off soon, then yeah, she'd still have that non stop narcissism going, and would want to go out looking her best.

--except, she will rot away, alone, for years on DR (should the jury sentence her to the DP) and by the time it's "her turn" she will be old, wrinkled, and basically crazed/pissed off. she won't even remember what make up was.

Thank you, Elle! Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 788090459

Good points, and--depending on the final phase of the verdict--probably all too true!

I'm not positive if there ever is a time when 'vanity' leaves a person. I've known ladies--and this one is no lady, but still--I have known ladies who liked to put on their lipstick before going out when they were well into their 80's.

However, from living alone in a tiny, tiny little cell for all those years, she might become a bit 'crazed,' and not be able to find it.

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by Chickenbutt Fri May 17, 2013 11:16 am

lol....you guys have brought some crazy visuals to mind this morning. I can see Jodi at age 80, red lipstick bleeding into the wrinkles around her lips, heavy eyeliner, smeared mascara, looking like a clown...batting her eyes at the guards (hottie biscottis) who are there to escort her to the death chamber.

by Nan11 Fri May 17, 2013 11:17 am

LiveLaughLove wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Uh, Oh...not a good character witness....

I guess she couldn't withstand Juan's cross...

Thanks for that info on PW. I had just heard a few rumblings and your links helped make that clearer.

Muchly appreciated. Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 4228459011

by Nan11 Fri May 17, 2013 11:20 am

Chickenbutt wrote:lol....you guys have brought some crazy visuals to mind this morning. I can see Jodi at age 80, red lipstick bleeding into the wrinkles around her lips, heavy eyeliner, smeared mascara, looking like a clown...batting her eyes at the guards (hottie biscottis) who are there to escort her to the death chamber.

A few years down the road, there might be more truth in your comment than we realize today. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

And if we start thinking we are being unkind, we can take a minute to remember the way she left Travis.

by Nan11 Fri May 17, 2013 11:40 am

Apparently this is Arias' cell for the time being. Messy, messy. I guess she is busy. Jodi Arias #4 - Page 3 1235314979

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