Jodi Arias #2

Chickenbutt wrote:AB....

Thanks CB.

[quote="One Wonders"]High Five Sista!!!

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AuntBella wrote:

One Wonders wrote:High Five Sista!!!

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That little dog in your avatar is so cute!!!

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AuntBella wrote:

One Wonders wrote:High Five Sista!!!

Cheers to all my "Sisters" here, there, and EVERYWHERE!

That little dog in your avatar is so cute!!!

Thanks CP, He is our little Chase.

AuntBella wrote:

Sea Ray wrote:

tuhorses wrote:Couple of days ago some older woman called HLN and told them that even though Jodi is guilty of killing Travis, she thinks Travis was guilty of many things himself, including being a pedophile.

HLN host asked her: "Why do you think so?"

She replied: "I believe he was a pedophile because all he wanted from Jodi was anal sex".

I think it's very possible that Travis was addicted to sex but having anal sex on a female does not make him a pedophile. There's no evidence that he's ever had child porn in his possession (a picture of a boy in his underwear doesn't count).

But even if he does like little boys and he's addicted to sex in general, it has nothing to do with his getting butchered on June 4th 2008

Travis was a healthy, sexually active man who had this Vixen playing into his sexual desires.

Travis (like MOST Men) Want a Lady in the Parlor, and a Whore in the bedroom. Jodi was never going to be anything more than his whore, and he knew that. Than again, Jodi was not some “innocent” either and knew this was one way of getting Travis’ full attention (if only in the bedroom). So she played the part of little Vixen hoping this would win him over.

This behavior doesn't make Travis a sexual deviant, or pedophile, or sex addict. All it proves is that Travis was thinking like a true, red blooded male, who was thinking with his penis and not his brains.

Unfortunately for Travis, he wasn't dealing with some girl who would eventually fade into the background. He was dealing with a sociopath, who killed him in cold blood.

You summed it up perfectly. Travis was only 30 years old and probably received all the sex he could possibly think of by Jodi. Jodi was thinking this was getting him all to herself, but she was wrong. He wanted to marry a good girl and Jodi didn't fit that scenerio.
Yes, Travis was thinking with the wrong head, typical of most men (especially at 30 years old) and Jodi wasn't having it. I believe she will be found guilty of "first degree murder" and well desewrved.

CuriousPortlander wrote:Side-by-side of Gus Searcy and "Dr." Samuels:

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THis doctor looks as though he needs a doctor. Doubt very much if the jury will put any credence to his theory. To me, it looks like he is reading pieces from magazines that he picked up along the way and now lables himself a psychologist.

I know the prosecution will do a better job in picking a rebuttal doc.

AuntBella wrote:Travis was a healthy, sexually active man who had this Vixen playing into his sexual desires.

Travis (like MOST Men) Want a Lady in the Parlor, and a Whore in the bedroom. Jodi was never going to be anything more than his whore, and he knew that. Than again, Jodi was not some “innocent” either and knew this was one way of getting Travis’ full attention (if only in the bedroom). So she played the part of little Vixen hoping this would win him over.

This behavior doesn't make Travis a sexual deviant, or pedophile, or sex addict. All it proves is that Travis was thinking like a true, red blooded male, who was thinking with his penis and not his brains.

Unfortunately for Travis, he wasn't dealing with some girl who would eventually fade into the background. He was dealing with a sociopath, who killed him in cold blood.

Chickenbutt wrote:AB....

CB, I second that!

Sea Ray wrote:

tuhorses wrote:Couple of days ago some older woman called HLN and told them that even though Jodi is guilty of killing Travis, she thinks Travis was guilty of many things himself, including being a pedophile.

HLN host asked her: "Why do you think so?"

She replied: "I believe he was a pedophile because all he wanted from Jodi was anal sex".

I think it's very possible that Travis was addicted to sex but having anal sex on a female does not make him a pedophile. There's no evidence that he's ever had child porn in his possession (a picture of a boy in his underwear doesn't count).

But even if he does like little boys and he's addicted to sex in general, it has nothing to do with his getting butchered on June 4th 2008

There is absolutely no proof that there was even a picture of a little boy. She first told a social worker (or whom ever) that she caught him on the computer looking at little boys, but when she must have realized that the computer can be checked out, she changed her story to say it was a loose picture. Travis was too much into women and there was absolutely nothing found in his house pertaining to little boys or little girls, this was all made up by Jodi to make her story sound more real and to make the jury look down on Travis. She is murdering him over and over again. She is just plain evil.

As for the display in the interrogation room, she may have been acting or it may have been real. But she cannot have a defense both ways. She is claiming self defense, therefore, I feel, that nothing of her mental state should even be brought in. I think it's a slick way of her defense attornies to squeeze in that she is crazy by putting this psychologist on that stand.

However, they picked a real cookoo looking doctor and he will probably be looked at as a nut job also by the jury.

The defense is scraping the bottom of the barrel with this witness. I can't imagine where they got him from or when he was released from the mental institution himself. He's a joke.

I can't wait to see their next witness


Jodi

Gizmo711 wrote:

CuriousPortlander wrote:Side-by-side of Gus Searcy and "Dr." Samuels:

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THis doctor looks as though he needs a doctor. Doubt very much if the jury will put any credence to his theory. To me, it looks like he is reading pieces from magazines that he picked up along the way and now lables himself a psychologist.

I know the prosecution will do a better job in picking a rebuttal doc.

I did a little snooping and found these tidbits of interesting facts

Dr. Samuels website states the following, "With an extensive background in evaluation, analysis report writing and testimony, Dr. Samuels specializes in Sexually Violent Perpetrator evaluations, Psychosexual Risk Assessment...for Defendants and Emotional Trauma from Medical Malpractice for Defendants and Plaintiffs. " "...He will determine the facts of the case and any special circumstances and mitigating factors involving the trial process. An extensive evaluation of the respondent, in depth case analysis and research contributes to a succinct report which often will result in a more favorable outcome for your client..."

I take that to mean that he will mold the facts of his testimony to fit the case to get the a "FAVORABLE OUTCOME"...Tell me again how this can be EXPERT Testimony?

His entire hypothesis is based upon what Jodi Arias told him in a total of only twelve sessions during the past four years. Would that be a sufficient amount of time to spend with Jodi when making a determination in a brutal capital murder trial?

HLN news reported that Dr. Samuels had been the subject of an ethics charge back in 2000, and as a result of this charge, he was fined $2500 and no longer allowed private psychology practice. HLN reported while representing a father in a custody case, he bartered for dental care.

If it looks and waddles like a DUCK, it’s a friggin DUCK!!! And this Quack doesn't seem like a "Respected" top notch professional. I’m thinking the defense had a hard time finding “Experts” to testify in Jodi’s defense and who would collaborate her “STORIES and LIES”. And this guy was the best they could come up with.

It's casting time in the Wonderful World of Lifetime Television.

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Hopefully the "Son of Sam" Law will stop Jodi from every getting any type of financial profit from this case. Than again, She won't need money where she is going...I hear that Buring in Hell is free for all of eternity.

One Wonders wrote:You fooled me then with such an embarrassing tasteless statement as you made. Those of us who have been abused know when the JA's of the world are lying and even those who haven't been abused are seeing JA for what she is.

I speak facts and make no apologies if they might be perceived as tasteless by some. I think it's best if we limit our discussions here to the JA Arias case and leave our opinions of other people's posts at the door.

For example I could say that the following was tasteless and offensive to men everywhere:

This behavior doesn't make Travis a sexual deviant, or pedophile, or sex addict. All it proves is that Travis was thinking like a true, red blooded male, who was thinking with his penis and not his brains.

But I have thicker skin than that and I know what Aunt Bella meant. I don't know what set you off about my comments but that's for you to deal with. I'm here to talk about the JA case and not evaluate people's posts as tasteless or embarrassing

Gizmo711 wrote:There is absolutely no proof that there was even a picture of a little boy.

You're absolutely right there. Of course there's no proof to most anything Jodi says. I think we all realize that fact. From that point, I tend to look at things from the stand point of "OK, if we take Jodi's testimony at face value, does it make sense?"

In the case of this picture of a little boy in underwear, it does not. Ditto for her story on the killing itself. No way all that running around, finding a gun, knife etc could have happened in 62 secs.

With thanks to Booklover444!

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Gizmo711 wrote:Yes, Travis was thinking with the wrong head, typical of most men (especially at 30 years old) and Jodi wasn't having it. I believe she will be found guilty of "first degree murder" and well desewrved.

Speaking as a red blooded American male (of which there seem to be few of in this forum) let me say that I was not as Jodi has described Travis while in my 20s. I didn't pleasure myself 3x a day. I didn't ever desire phone sex when I talked to my long distance girlfriend on the phone; nor was anal sex ever something I did or craved. I didn't participate in sexual marathons that lasted all afternoon. I didn't ever take photos of girlfriends doing porn. In other words, I don't think it's a proper leap to say that he is typical of young heterosexual males. I think his strong sexual desires were over the top and led to poor judgement in continuing this relationship when his friends and common sense told him otherwise. And it cost him in the end.

Sea Ray wrote:

Gizmo711 wrote:Yes, Travis was thinking with the wrong head, typical of most men (especially at 30 years old) and Jodi wasn't having it. I believe she will be found guilty of "first degree murder" and well desewrved.

Speaking as a red blooded American male (of which there seem to be few of in this forum) let me say that I was not as Jodi has described Travis while in my 20s. I didn't pleasure myself 3x a day. I didn't ever desire phone sex when I talked to my long distance girlfriend on the phone; nor was anal sex ever something I did or craved. I didn't participate in sexual marathons that lasted all afternoon. I didn't ever take photos of girlfriends doing porn. In other words, I don't think it's a proper leap to say that he is typical of young heterosexual males. I think his strong sexual desires were over the top and led to poor judgement in continuing this relationship when his friends and common sense told him otherwise. And it cost him in the end.

I apologize for insinuating that “ALL” men in Travis’s age group just want to find a nice piece of ass, some good porno and time to be a little “DIRTY” in the afternoon.

BUT come on, we all know Jodi is LYING and Travis most likely didn’t spend every free waking moment thinking about sex.

On the other hand though, you have to admit that MOST MEN in that age group just want to get laid, have fun, and sow all their wild oats before setting with the “LADY IN THE PARLOR”.

I’m not saying every man has the same sexual desires, or that it’s morally right for men to use women for this purpose. But like I said above, Travis probably thought she’d eventually disappear so why not “HAVE FUN”. Unfortunately though, Jodi didn't disappear, she murdered him instead.

AuntBella wrote:I apologize for insinuating that “ALL” men in Travis’s age group just want to find a nice piece of ass, some good porno and time to be a little “DIRTY” in the afternoon.

BUT come on, we all know Jodi is LYING and Travis most likely didn’t spend every free waking moment thinking about sex.

On the other hand though, you have to admit that MOST MEN in that age group just want to get laid, have fun, and sow all their wild oats before setting with the “LADY IN THE PARLOR”.

I’m not saying every man has the same sexual desires, or that it’s morally right for men to use women for this purpose. But like I said above, Travis probably thought she’d eventually disappear so why not “HAVE FUN”. Unfortunately though, Jodi didn't disappear, she murdered him instead.

No apologies needed. I wasn't the least bit offended by your comments. I just honestly felt like there was a misconception out there that Travis' sex drive was normal for a young man. IMO, it is not. Let's face it, Jodi had many men in her 30 some years of life yet none of them got hooked on her like Travis did. They did some kinky things that by Jodi's own words on that tape, were unique to him. She commented that she doubted that she'd find another man that's into such stuff. In other words it's not normal and she'd not found another guy who'd do those things with her

If not for Travis sex drive, he would have handled Jodi showing up at his place in June 2008 a little differently. He would have said "what the hell are you doing here? Get lost, I'm packing for Cancun".

Sea Ray wrote:

One Wonders wrote:You fooled me then with such an embarrassing tasteless statement as you made. Those of us who have been abused know when the JA's of the world are lying and even those who haven't been abused are seeing JA for what she is.

I speak facts and make no apologies if they might be perceived as tasteless by some. I think it's best if we limit our discussions here to the JA Arias case and leave our opinions of other people's posts at the door.

For example I could say that the following was tasteless and offensive to men everywhere:

This behavior doesn't make Travis a sexual deviant, or pedophile, or sex addict. All it proves is that Travis was thinking like a true, red blooded male, who was thinking with his penis and not his brains.

But I have thicker skin than that and I know what Aunt Bella meant. I don't know what set you off about my comments but that's for you to deal with. I'm here to talk about the JA case and not evaluate people's posts as tasteless or embarrassing

I'm like you Sea Ray, I call it as I see it (right, wrong or indifferent). I pull no punches, and you will never wonder what is on my mind. I think most women have faced with some sort of abuse in their life, whether it's physical, emotional, sexual, and some of us have faced far harsher situations than others may have encountered. Every situation is different and you can't even begin to compare one to another.

But what I think has a lot of women ANGRY AND MAD at Jodi's "I'm the Victim of Abuse" defense is the fact that she is lying, that she is hiding behind bold ridiculous lies making it all that harder for a someone who is truly abused, beat, rapped, and shamed at the hands of their significant other. Who might need a defense like this to defend their actions. Nicole was savagely abused by OJ both in life and death. I think we get desensitized to all the violence we see in our own daily lives and we forget that Nicole was more than just a name in the papers. She was a real person, living with real fear, who eventually was murdered by the man she feared most.

Sea Ray wrote:

Gizmo711 wrote:Yes, Travis was thinking with the wrong head, typical of most men (especially at 30 years old) and Jodi wasn't having it. I believe she will be found guilty of "first degree murder" and well desewrved.

Speaking as a red blooded American male (of which there seem to be few of in this forum) let me say that I was not as Jodi has described Travis while in my 20s. I didn't pleasure myself 3x a day. I didn't ever desire phone sex when I talked to my long distance girlfriend on the phone; nor was anal sex ever something I did or craved. I didn't participate in sexual marathons that lasted all afternoon. I didn't ever take photos of girlfriends doing porn. In other words, I don't think it's a proper leap to say that he is typical of young heterosexual males. I think his strong sexual desires were over the top and led to poor judgement in continuing this relationship when his friends and common sense told him otherwise. And it cost him in the end.

Neither was this acceptable in my days, but depending on what happens nowadays, I don't think this was way off limits to a 30 year old man. She offered it to him and he wasn't going to turn it down. She is portraying him as some perverted human being when all the time I believe it was her and her alone that turned him on to all this. The proof was when her ex boyfriend said that he too had anal and oral sex with Jodi. I'm sure if we spoke with all of her ex's they would probably all say the same thing. Now she wants to use it all against him after he is dead.

AuntBella wrote:

Sea Ray wrote:

Gizmo711 wrote:Yes, Travis was thinking with the wrong head, typical of most men (especially at 30 years old) and Jodi wasn't having it. I believe she will be found guilty of "first degree murder" and well desewrved.

Speaking as a red blooded American male (of which there seem to be few of in this forum) let me say that I was not as Jodi has described Travis while in my 20s. I didn't pleasure myself 3x a day. I didn't ever desire phone sex when I talked to my long distance girlfriend on the phone; nor was anal sex ever something I did or craved. I didn't participate in sexual marathons that lasted all afternoon. I didn't ever take photos of girlfriends doing porn. In other words, I don't think it's a proper leap to say that he is typical of young heterosexual males. I think his strong sexual desires were over the top and led to poor judgement in continuing this relationship when his friends and common sense told him otherwise. And it cost him in the end.

I apologize for insinuating that “ALL” men in Travis’s age group just want to find a nice piece of ass, some good porno and time to be a little “DIRTY” in the afternoon.

BUT come on, we all know Jodi is LYING and Travis most likely didn’t spend every free waking moment thinking about sex.

On the other hand though, you have to admit that MOST MEN in that age group just want to get laid, have fun, and sow all their wild oats before setting with the “LADY IN THE PARLOR”.

I’m not saying every man has the same sexual desires, or that it’s morally right for men to use women for this purpose. But like I said above, Travis probably thought she’d eventually disappear so why not “HAVE FUN”. Unfortunately though, Jodi didn't disappear, she murdered him instead.

I believe that's why he couldn't let go of her, he was enjoying every minute of it, however, he didn't want a comittment with Jodi, he wanted a untouched girl to marry and Jodi just couldn't handle that, it was going to be her or nobody.

AuntBella wrote:But what I think has a lot of women ANGRY AND MAD at Jodi's "I'm the Victim of Abuse" defense is the fact that she is lying, that she is hiding behind bold ridiculous lies making it all that harder for a someone who is truly abused, beat, rapped, and shamed at the hands of their significant other. Who might need a defense like this to defend their actions. Nicole was savagely abused by OJ both in life and death. I think we get desensitized to all the violence we see in our own daily lives and we forget that Nicole was more than just a name in the papers. She was a real person, living with real fear, who eventually was murdered by the man she feared most.

I think women everywhere should be really teed off about that. She's using the abused woman mantra to get off. No question about it

Sea Ray wrote:

AuntBella wrote:I apologize for insinuating that “ALL” men in Travis’s age group just want to find a nice piece of ass, some good porno and time to be a little “DIRTY” in the afternoon.

BUT come on, we all know Jodi is LYING and Travis most likely didn’t spend every free waking moment thinking about sex.

On the other hand though, you have to admit that MOST MEN in that age group just want to get laid, have fun, and sow all their wild oats before setting with the “LADY IN THE PARLOR”.

I’m not saying every man has the same sexual desires, or that it’s morally right for men to use women for this purpose. But like I said above, Travis probably thought she’d eventually disappear so why not “HAVE FUN”. Unfortunately though, Jodi didn't disappear, she murdered him instead.

No apologies needed. I wasn't the least bit offended by your comments. I just honestly felt like there was a misconception out there that Travis' sex drive was normal for a young man. IMO, it is not. Let's face it, Jodi had many men in her 30 some years of life yet none of them got hooked on her like Travis did. They did some kinky things that by Jodi's own words on that tape, were unique to him. She commented that she doubted that she'd find another man that's into such stuff. In other words it's not normal and she'd not found another guy who'd do those things with her

If not for Travis sex drive, he would have handled Jodi showing up at his place in June 2008 a little differently. He would have said "what the hell are you doing here? Get lost, I'm packing for Cancun".

I agree, if ir wasn't for the sex Travis probably could have turned her away. But in the same token, if Travis was used to this kind of sex, he also would have been able to turn her away. She showed him sex that he probably only "may" have read about and he got lost up in it (no pun attended).

I think Jodi thought she was going to win him over by being his first to such things, and although he may have been enjoying it, he wasn't going to marry someone like this. Which is certainly within a 30 year old guys thinking (the average one anyway). If he had been in his early 20's, he just may have married her (not caring about anything else but sex). But he was old enough to know better yet want to enjoy it.

Sea Ray wrote:

AuntBella wrote:But what I think has a lot of women ANGRY AND MAD at Jodi's "I'm the Victim of Abuse" defense is the fact that she is lying, that she is hiding behind bold ridiculous lies making it all that harder for a someone who is truly abused, beat, rapped, and shamed at the hands of their significant other. Who might need a defense like this to defend their actions. Nicole was savagely abused by OJ both in life and death. I think we get desensitized to all the violence we see in our own daily lives and we forget that Nicole was more than just a name in the papers. She was a real person, living with real fear, who eventually was murdered by the man she feared most.

I think women everywhere should be really teed off about that. She's using the abused woman mantra to get off. No question about it

I totally agree, Jodi is making a mockery of women abused.

The more I look at this Dr. Samuals, the more I think of how desperate the defense is. No way would anyone use this man as an expert to save someones life. I'm sure that both defense attornies were saying under their breath "Oh. chit, what have we got ourselves into". THis doctor appears to be under psychiatric treatment himself. I doubt that he will make it thru cross with Martinez.

"""I know who Dr. Samuals" reminds me of"""

Uncle Fester from the Addams family..