Jodi Arias #4

Sea Ray wrote:

One Wonders wrote:Let's see???
"All these year's later"
WTH is that?
This family cannot even begin grieving properly much less heal until the legal portion of Travis' death is over with.
Steven has every right to be mad as hell for as long as he want's to be mad as hell.
BTW there is NO set number on how long the grieving process may take a person.
What you don't seem to get is that his brother was BRUTALLY MURDERED with no resolution for it as of yet.
Tell me as I'm curious when was the last time you lost a loved one period, not to even mention a murdered loved one?

To answer the last question, I lost a brother myself to a blood disease 9 years ago. We were hoping a bone marrow transplant would save him but he never made it to Seattle for the procedure.

I have no idea why you're copping such an attitude. It's not a matter of someone's rights or what I don't get. Steven has every right to feel however he feels. I feel sorry for him that he still harbors such anger. I understand why but I still feel sorry for him and I hope he can get past this. I think you do too so I don't understand why you're climbing all over me.

Now what's your problem?

I'd appreciate it if you'd stay on Jodi's back and off mine. We're on the same side here

CherokeeNative wrote:Well, I heard this morning that Travis' family is ready to go another round with the penalty phase of this case. It appears that they have regrouped and are not willing to let Jodi run the show. I salute them and hope the jury gets it right this next go around.

Gizmo711 wrote:It's real easy to figure out what Travis was referring to when he wrote that nasty e-mail to Jodi just days before she murdered him. Jodi was doing the very same thing to Travis while he was alive as she did to him after death. She was threatening him, e-mailing all his friends and was going to spread rumors about him unless he agreed to have her and only her. She may very well have told him about her recording their sex conversation without his knowledge. That alone told the story of what Jodi was all about.

The only thing that can stop this woman is death, or she will continue with this for the rest of her life and tormenting Travis' family over and over again.

Jodi needs to be stopped.

Some want to know why Travis continued to talk to Jodi and see her, well there is an old saying "keep your friends close but your enemies closer", Travis was keeping her close to keep tabs on what she was doing to harm him while trying to control the situation. He just didn't see this end coming.

One Wonders wrote:I'm truely sorry about your brother. I know bone marrow transplant's are horribly painful to go through and it does make me feel sad that he didn't get a chance to finish out his life disease free and an old man with grandchildren at his feet learning from him through his life experince's.

My "problem" with you is the following.
The reason I "cop attitude" with you is because you sound like a heartless butthead and it pisses me off. You and I both know that your baiting when you do that because you know you'll get away with it. If you don't want me "climbing all over you" then you'd better stop and think before you write such heartless crap like you've been appointed to the Anger Police. Believe me if I could take Steven's anger away I would. He did seek help for it, and for all any of us know he may still be getting help for it but it's not going to help until JA is where she belong's. That family has to worry every day that someone may give JA a pitty break and just sentence her to 25 year's. If I were in their shoe's I'd be scared spitless.
I'm deffiantley on the side of justice for Travis and that include's his family and friend's. So if your not going to think before you leap into writing something that sounds heartless or rude I will call you on it. It's just the way I am. i will forever defend the underdog and at the moment it's the Alexander family. So be kind when writing about them.

Sea Ray wrote:

One Wonders wrote:Let's see???
"All these year's later"
WTH is that?
This family cannot even begin grieving properly much less heal until the legal portion of Travis' death is over with.
Steven has every right to be mad as hell for as long as he want's to be mad as hell.
BTW there is NO set number on how long the grieving process may take a person.
What you don't seem to get is that his brother was BRUTALLY MURDERED with no resolution for it as of yet.
Tell me as I'm curious when was the last time you lost a loved one period, not to even mention a murdered loved one?

To answer the last question, I lost a brother myself to a blood disease 9 years ago. We were hoping a bone marrow transplant would save him but he never made it to Seattle for the procedure.

I have no idea why you're copping such an attitude. It's not a matter of someone's rights or what I don't get. Steven has every right to feel however he feels. I feel sorry for him that he still harbors such anger. I understand why but I still feel sorry for him and I hope he can get past this. I think you do too so I don't understand why you're climbing all over me.

Now what's your problem?

I'd appreciate it if you'd stay on Jodi's back and off mine. We're on the same side here

Gizmo711 wrote:What did I do to deserve these handcuffs? Or were they put there by mistake. Either way I like them. Thank you.

Sea Ray wrote:

One Wonders wrote:I'm truely sorry about your brother. I know bone marrow transplant's are horribly painful to go through and it does make me feel sad that he didn't get a chance to finish out his life disease free and an old man with grandchildren at his feet learning from him through his life experince's.

My "problem" with you is the following.
The reason I "cop attitude" with you is because you sound like a heartless butthead and it pisses me off. You and I both know that your baiting when you do that because you know you'll get away with it. If you don't want me "climbing all over you" then you'd better stop and think before you write such heartless crap like you've been appointed to the Anger Police. Believe me if I could take Steven's anger away I would. He did seek help for it, and for all any of us know he may still be getting help for it but it's not going to help until JA is where she belong's. That family has to worry every day that someone may give JA a pitty break and just sentence her to 25 year's. If I were in their shoe's I'd be scared spitless.
I'm deffiantley on the side of justice for Travis and that include's his family and friend's. So if your not going to think before you leap into writing something that sounds heartless or rude I will call you on it. It's just the way I am. i will forever defend the underdog and at the moment it's the Alexander family. So be kind when writing about them.

Sea Ray wrote:

One Wonders wrote:Let's see???
"All these year's later"
WTH is that?
This family cannot even begin grieving properly much less heal until the legal portion of Travis' death is over with.
Steven has every right to be mad as hell for as long as he want's to be mad as hell.
BTW there is NO set number on how long the grieving process may take a person.
What you don't seem to get is that his brother was BRUTALLY MURDERED with no resolution for it as of yet.
Tell me as I'm curious when was the last time you lost a loved one period, not to even mention a murdered loved one?

To answer the last question, I lost a brother myself to a blood disease 9 years ago. We were hoping a bone marrow transplant would save him but he never made it to Seattle for the procedure.

I have no idea why you're copping such an attitude. It's not a matter of someone's rights or what I don't get. Steven has every right to feel however he feels. I feel sorry for him that he still harbors such anger. I understand why but I still feel sorry for him and I hope he can get past this. I think you do too so I don't understand why you're climbing all over me.

Now what's your problem?

I'd appreciate it if you'd stay on Jodi's back and off mine. We're on the same side here

You obviously don't know me. I don't have the time or energy to bait anyone. I call 'em like I see 'em and I don't appreciate being accused of it. You can't define any baiting sentence I wrote. You are looking for a fight. Not I.

I am fully aware that you can't handle differing opinions but what puzzles me is that in this case our opinions don't differ. If you disagree with me, please spell out where your views differ and keep the personal stuff out of it. I honestly don't see where we part ways where Jodi is concerned.

As for Stephen, his healing will have to come from within. He's not going to get over this based on what Judge Stephens does. Even if Jodi sits on death row for 20 yrs he'll still have to deal with his anger.

Times On Line: National | Arizona Supreme Court denies review in Arias case

The Arizona Supreme Court on Wednesday declined to hear an appeal on whether a judge improperly allowed prosecutors to seek a death sentence for Jodi Arias in the 2008 stabbing and shooting of her former boyfriend.

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Sea Ray wrote:

One Wonders wrote:I'm truely sorry about your brother. I know bone marrow transplant's are horribly painful to go through and it does make me feel sad that he didn't get a chance to finish out his life disease free and an old man with grandchildren at his feet learning from him through his life experince's.

My "problem" with you is the following.
The reason I "cop attitude" with you is because you sound like a heartless butthead and it pisses me off. You and I both know that your baiting when you do that because you know you'll get away with it. If you don't want me "climbing all over you" then you'd better stop and think before you write such heartless crap like you've been appointed to the Anger Police. Believe me if I could take Steven's anger away I would. He did seek help for it, and for all any of us know he may still be getting help for it but it's not going to help until JA is where she belong's. That family has to worry every day that someone may give JA a pitty break and just sentence her to 25 year's. If I were in their shoe's I'd be scared spitless.
I'm deffiantley on the side of justice for Travis and that include's his family and friend's. So if your not going to think before you leap into writing something that sounds heartless or rude I will call you on it. It's just the way I am. i will forever defend the underdog and at the moment it's the Alexander family. So be kind when writing about them.

Sea Ray wrote:

One Wonders wrote:Let's see???
"All these year's later"
WTH is that?
This family cannot even begin grieving properly much less heal until the legal portion of Travis' death is over with.
Steven has every right to be mad as hell for as long as he want's to be mad as hell.
BTW there is NO set number on how long the grieving process may take a person.
What you don't seem to get is that his brother was BRUTALLY MURDERED with no resolution for it as of yet.
Tell me as I'm curious when was the last time you lost a loved one period, not to even mention a murdered loved one?

To answer the last question, I lost a brother myself to a blood disease 9 years ago. We were hoping a bone marrow transplant would save him but he never made it to Seattle for the procedure.

I have no idea why you're copping such an attitude. It's not a matter of someone's rights or what I don't get. Steven has every right to feel however he feels. I feel sorry for him that he still harbors such anger. I understand why but I still feel sorry for him and I hope he can get past this. I think you do too so I don't understand why you're climbing all over me.

Now what's your problem?

I'd appreciate it if you'd stay on Jodi's back and off mine. We're on the same side here

You obviously don't know me. I don't have the time or energy to bait anyone. I call 'em like I see 'em and I don't appreciate being accused of it. You can't define any baiting sentence I wrote. You are looking for a fight. Not I.

I am fully aware that you can't handle differing opinions but what puzzles me is that in this case our opinions don't differ. If you disagree with me, please spell out where your views differ and keep the personal stuff out of it. I honestly don't see where we part ways where Jodi is concerned.

As for Stephen, his healing will have to come from within. He's not going to get over this based on what Judge Stephens does. Even if Jodi sits on death row for 20 yrs he'll still have to deal with his anger.

LiveLaughLove wrote:
Steven has to learn to let go of that hate for his own health. It will come in due time.

I understand his anger and pain but that will not help him with what he's going through.

It will take time to get to that place...It took me time and now after 30 years, I've just let go of my own anger with murder in my family. The only difference is no one has been held responsible, so no justice came for us..

Even as you get justice, it will never take the place of your loved one...

Steven will have to do this at his own speed..

LiveLaughLove wrote:

Sea Ray wrote:

One Wonders wrote:I'm truely sorry about your brother. I know bone marrow transplant's are horribly painful to go through and it does make me feel sad that he didn't get a chance to finish out his life disease free and an old man with grandchildren at his feet learning from him through his life experince's.

My "problem" with you is the following.
The reason I "cop attitude" with you is because you sound like a heartless butthead and it pisses me off. You and I both know that your baiting when you do that because you know you'll get away with it. If you don't want me "climbing all over you" then you'd better stop and think before you write such heartless crap like you've been appointed to the Anger Police. Believe me if I could take Steven's anger away I would. He did seek help for it, and for all any of us know he may still be getting help for it but it's not going to help until JA is where she belong's. That family has to worry every day that someone may give JA a pitty break and just sentence her to 25 year's. If I were in their shoe's I'd be scared spitless.
I'm deffiantley on the side of justice for Travis and that include's his family and friend's. So if your not going to think before you leap into writing something that sounds heartless or rude I will call you on it. It's just the way I am. i will forever defend the underdog and at the moment it's the Alexander family. So be kind when writing about them.

Sea Ray wrote:

To answer the last question, I lost a brother myself to a blood disease 9 years ago. We were hoping a bone marrow transplant would save him but he never made it to Seattle for the procedure.

I have no idea why you're copping such an attitude. It's not a matter of someone's rights or what I don't get. Steven has every right to feel however he feels. I feel sorry for him that he still harbors such anger. I understand why but I still feel sorry for him and I hope he can get past this. I think you do too so I don't understand why you're climbing all over me.

Now what's your problem?

I'd appreciate it if you'd stay on Jodi's back and off mine. We're on the same side here

You obviously don't know me. I don't have the time or energy to bait anyone. I call 'em like I see 'em and I don't appreciate being accused of it. You can't define any baiting sentence I wrote. You are looking for a fight. Not I.

I am fully aware that you can't handle differing opinions but what puzzles me is that in this case our opinions don't differ. If you disagree with me, please spell out where your views differ and keep the personal stuff out of it. I honestly don't see where we part ways where Jodi is concerned.

As for Stephen, his healing will have to come from within. He's not going to get over this based on what Judge Stephens does. Even if Jodi sits on death row for 20 yrs he'll still have to deal with his anger.

BBM

Steven has to learn to let go of that hate for his own health. It will come in due time.

I understand his anger and pain but that will not help him with what he's going through.

It will take time to get to that place...It took me time and now after 30 years, I've just let go of my own anger with murder in my family. The only difference is no one has been held responsible, so no justice came for us..

Even as you get justice, it will never take the place of your loved one...

Steven will have to do this at his own speed..

angiefly2 wrote:

LiveLaughLove wrote:

Sea Ray wrote:

One Wonders wrote:I'm truely sorry about your brother. I know bone marrow transplant's are horribly painful to go through and it does make me feel sad that he didn't get a chance to finish out his life disease free and an old man with grandchildren at his feet learning from him through his life experince's.

My "problem" with you is the following.
The reason I "cop attitude" with you is because you sound like a heartless butthead and it pisses me off. You and I both know that your baiting when you do that because you know you'll get away with it. If you don't want me "climbing all over you" then you'd better stop and think before you write such heartless crap like you've been appointed to the Anger Police. Believe me if I could take Steven's anger away I would. He did seek help for it, and for all any of us know he may still be getting help for it but it's not going to help until JA is where she belong's. That family has to worry every day that someone may give JA a pitty break and just sentence her to 25 year's. If I were in their shoe's I'd be scared spitless.
I'm deffiantley on the side of justice for Travis and that include's his family and friend's. So if your not going to think before you leap into writing something that sounds heartless or rude I will call you on it. It's just the way I am. i will forever defend the underdog and at the moment it's the Alexander family. So be kind when writing about them.

You obviously don't know me. I don't have the time or energy to bait anyone. I call 'em like I see 'em and I don't appreciate being accused of it. You can't define any baiting sentence I wrote. You are looking for a fight. Not I.

I am fully aware that you can't handle differing opinions but what puzzles me is that in this case our opinions don't differ. If you disagree with me, please spell out where your views differ and keep the personal stuff out of it. I honestly don't see where we part ways where Jodi is concerned.

As for Stephen, his healing will have to come from within. He's not going to get over this based on what Judge Stephens does. Even if Jodi sits on death row for 20 yrs he'll still have to deal with his anger.

BBM

Steven has to learn to let go of that hate for his own health. It will come in due time.

I understand his anger and pain but that will not help him with what he's going through.

It will take time to get to that place...It took me time and now after 30 years, I've just let go of my own anger with murder in my family. The only difference is no one has been held responsible, so no justice came for us..

Even as you get justice, it will never take the place of your loved one...

Steven will have to do this at his own speed..

I agree with you and to add to what you said LiveLaughLove, I have been through a horrific murder of a loved one as well, and I know from my experience that court/trial etc... tends to drudge up the pain and in the JA case I think it had to be really hard for the Alexanders to have to listen to/watch the defense drag Travis through the mud the way they did. That was enough to make even spectators angry, so I can only imagine how it made his family feel. I know Steven talked about being angry and how much the murder of his brother effected his entire life but he may have been starting to heal, as we all know it's a process. Then comes the defense who rips off the band-aid and pours fuel on the fire. So IMO it will take time to heal, not only from the murder itself, but also the trial. So yes, even though it happened in 2008, the trial just occurred and ended with a non verdict. That has to be really painful and a very personal experience for Steven and the other family members as well.


ETA: BBM LLL, I am sorry you didn't get justice for your loved one. I can only imagine. My thoughts are with you and I am glad that you are healing. I know that it's hard.

Arizona News | County Attorney: Arias Retrial is On Track

The do-over of the penalty phase of the Jodi Arias murder trial is moving forward, according to Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery.

He told reporters on Thursday, "We're preparing for a retrial," which is currently scheduled to begin in mid-July.

However, he says there are several things that could make a retrial unnecessary.

"Prosecutors always have an ethical obligation to take into consideration anything that might be proposed by the defendant or their counsel," Montgomery says.

Then there's the issue of how a retrial would affect the victim's family – in this case, the family of murder victim Travis Alexander. "Victims have a constitutional right to confer with the prosecutor prior to disposition of the case," he says. "They also have a constitutional right to be treated with fairness, respect, and dignity. So victim input is very important to me."

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LiveLaughLove wrote:I haven't kept up with this trial after the mistrial on the penalty phase.

Is Nurmi and Willmott still representing Jodi?

angiefly2 wrote:

LiveLaughLove wrote:I haven't kept up with this trial after the mistrial on the penalty phase.

Is Nurmi and Willmott still representing Jodi?

Surprisingly the two who wanted off the case now want to stay on the case... Someone posted about them continuing to represent her but I cannot find the post. So, yes as of right now they are still on.

Sea Ray wrote:

angiefly2 wrote:

LiveLaughLove wrote:I haven't kept up with this trial after the mistrial on the penalty phase.

Is Nurmi and Willmott still representing Jodi?

Surprisingly the two who wanted off the case now want to stay on the case... Someone posted about them continuing to represent her but I cannot find the post. So, yes as of right now they are still on.

Do they "want" to stay on the case or are they forced to because the judge denied their motion to recuse?

Sea Ray wrote:

angiefly2 wrote:

LiveLaughLove wrote:I haven't kept up with this trial after the mistrial on the penalty phase.

Is Nurmi and Willmott still representing Jodi?

Surprisingly the two who wanted off the case now want to stay on the case... Someone posted about them continuing to represent her but I cannot find the post. So, yes as of right now they are still on.

Do they "want" to stay on the case or are they forced to because the judge denied their motion to recuse?