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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by CuriousPortlander Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:47 am
Joe Gentz in court, pretrial hearing moves to Dec. 21th
Published On: Dec 14 2012 11:32:00 AM EST Updated On: Dec 14 2012 11:37:34 AM EST
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In a short court session, Judge Vonda Evans rescheduled the pretrial until Friday, December 21th at 9 a.m.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by CuriousPortlander Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:50 am
Darkman wrote:Bashara: book worthy?
December 18, 2012
Charlie talks with author [Only admins are allowed to see this link]. Miller followed a penned a book on the Tara Grant case. He tells Charlie what makes the Bashara case so compelling.
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Thanks for the link to this, Darkman!
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by CuriousPortlander Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:44 am
Bashara gets new address: state prison in Jackson
December 13, 2012 at 1:00 am
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Jackson — The man once known as the Mayor of Middlesex is now prisoner No. 856261.
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But state corrections officials say the former real estate entrepreneur may not be isolated from other prisoners after he goes through a month-long intake and assessment process at the Egeler Center, where all male prisoners in Michigan first report after sentencing.
"I don't anticipate that he would not be placed in general population, but if through the intake and screening process they determine that he might be at risk, then they could put him into protective custody," Michigan Department of Corrections spokesman Russ Marlan said.
"But just because someone may have been involved in a noteworthy case, that doesn't automatically necessitate separate placement," Marlan said.
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Jackson — The man once known as the Mayor of Middlesex is now prisoner No. 856261.
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But state corrections officials say the former real estate entrepreneur may not be isolated from other prisoners after he goes through a month-long intake and assessment process at the Egeler Center, where all male prisoners in Michigan first report after sentencing.
"I don't anticipate that he would not be placed in general population, but if through the intake and screening process they determine that he might be at risk, then they could put him into protective custody," Michigan Department of Corrections spokesman Russ Marlan said.
"But just because someone may have been involved in a noteworthy case, that doesn't automatically necessitate separate placement," Marlan said.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by One Wonders Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:51 pm
CuriousPortlander wrote:Joe Gentz in court, pretrial hearing moves to Dec. 21th
Published On: Dec 14 2012 11:32:00 AM EST Updated On: Dec 14 2012 11:37:34 AM EST
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This really disturbs me. Why is there a pretrial hearing when he's already confessed? Does he need to be sentenced before charges are brought against BB?
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by CuriousPortlander Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:18 pm
One Wonders wrote:CuriousPortlander wrote:Joe Gentz in court, pretrial hearing moves to Dec. 21th
Published On: Dec 14 2012 11:32:00 AM EST Updated On: Dec 14 2012 11:37:34 AM EST
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This really disturbs me. Why is there a pretrial hearing when he's already confessed? Does he need to be sentenced before charges are brought against BB?
Joe confessed before he was charged, but after he was charged, he entered a Not Guilty plea at his arraignment. So he's going to trial in January unless he makes a deal with prosecutors to plead guilty in return for testifying against BB. No, I don't think Joe has to be sentenced before BB is charged, but they probably want to wait to charge BB to see if Joe and his attorney can work out a deal.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:51 am
Ya ... No prob ...CuriousPortlander wrote:Darkman wrote:Bashara: book worthy?
December 18, 2012
Charlie talks with author [Only admins are allowed to see this link]. Miller followed a penned a book on the Tara Grant case. He tells Charlie what makes the Bashara case so compelling.
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Thanks for the link to this, Darkman!
That Steve Miller, registered at my own (little) forum couple of weeks ago (under the nickname as in his website's address above) ... and PMed me few general questions...
Then on the morning of him being a Charlie's show ... he told me he is going to be on Charlie's ...
So i got curious and googled his nick .. and few results indicated him being that Steve Miller ... Charlie's show (with him being on) started .. and SURE thing .. the person = Steve Miller
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:54 am
Man who said he killed Grosse Pointe Park woman may avoid trial with plea deal
Joe Gentz, who told investigators he killed Grosse Pointe Park mother Jane Bashara at her home, may avoid trial with plea deal
Published On: Dec 20 2012 10:59:06 PM EST Updated On: Dec 20 2012 11:19:42 PM EST
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DETROIT - The man who told police investigators he killed a Grosse Pointe Park woman may avoid trial with a plea deal.
Sources tell Local 4 Joe Gentz, who was a handyman for Jane Bashara's husband Bob Bashara, may have a deal in place which could be announced Friday in court. Gentz is expected in court Friday morning for his pretrial hearing.
Those close to the case say attorneys representing Gentz have been in negotiations with prosecutors and both sides have been working to make this deal happen before the end of the year.
What would the plea deal look like? It may be 2nd degree murder and a minimum of 20 years in prison for Gentz.
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Sources say once the Gentz deal is done Bob Bashara himself may be next to face charges for his wife's murder. From day one investigators have felt Bob Bashara was involved in plotting his wife's death.
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Joe Gentz, who told investigators he killed Grosse Pointe Park mother Jane Bashara at her home, may avoid trial with plea deal
Published On: Dec 20 2012 10:59:06 PM EST Updated On: Dec 20 2012 11:19:42 PM EST
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DETROIT - The man who told police investigators he killed a Grosse Pointe Park woman may avoid trial with a plea deal.
Sources tell Local 4 Joe Gentz, who was a handyman for Jane Bashara's husband Bob Bashara, may have a deal in place which could be announced Friday in court. Gentz is expected in court Friday morning for his pretrial hearing.
Those close to the case say attorneys representing Gentz have been in negotiations with prosecutors and both sides have been working to make this deal happen before the end of the year.
What would the plea deal look like? It may be 2nd degree murder and a minimum of 20 years in prison for Gentz.
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Sources say once the Gentz deal is done Bob Bashara himself may be next to face charges for his wife's murder. From day one investigators have felt Bob Bashara was involved in plotting his wife's death.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by CuriousPortlander Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:11 am
Darkman wrote:Man who said he killed Grosse Pointe Park woman may avoid trial with plea deal
Joe Gentz, who told investigators he killed Grosse Pointe Park mother Jane Bashara at her home, may avoid trial with plea deal
Published On: Dec 20 2012 10:59:06 PM EST Updated On: Dec 20 2012 11:19:42 PM EST
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DETROIT - The man who told police investigators he killed a Grosse Pointe Park woman may avoid trial with a plea deal.
Sources tell Local 4 Joe Gentz, who was a handyman for Jane Bashara's husband Bob Bashara, may have a deal in place which could be announced Friday in court. Gentz is expected in court Friday morning for his pretrial hearing.
Those close to the case say attorneys representing Gentz have been in negotiations with prosecutors and both sides have been working to make this deal happen before the end of the year.
What would the plea deal look like? It may be 2nd degree murder and a minimum of 20 years in prison for Gentz.
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Sources say once the Gentz deal is done Bob Bashara himself may be next to face charges for his wife's murder. From day one investigators have felt Bob Bashara was involved in plotting his wife's death.
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Thank you, Darkman! Woohoo!!!
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:39 am
Ya .. No prob ...
Say hi to J4J'ers from me ;)
Say hi to J4J'ers from me ;)
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:34 am
Handyman Joseph Gentz headed to court today in Jane Bashara slaying
December 21, 2012
By Elisha Anderson, Detroit Free Press Staff
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... Gentz's attorney, Susan Reed, has previously said her client would be willing to testify if charges are filed against Bashara in the killing. She could not be reached for comment Thursday ...
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December 21, 2012
By Elisha Anderson, Detroit Free Press Staff
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... Gentz's attorney, Susan Reed, has previously said her client would be willing to testify if charges are filed against Bashara in the killing. She could not be reached for comment Thursday ...
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:22 pm
Gentz plea .. Guilty .. 2nd degree murder..
Judge can do him "for life" .. but going to give him from 17 to 28 years
Deal done!
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Jan 29th, 2013 ... sentencing
Tuesday..
Bye.......
Judge can do him "for life" .. but going to give him from 17 to 28 years
Deal done!
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Jan 29th, 2013 ... sentencing
Tuesday..
Bye.......
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:40 pm
Joe Gentz takes plea deal; Guilty in murder of Grosse Pointe Park mom Jane Bashara
Posted: 10:30 AM
Last Updated: 2 minutes ago
• By: WXYZ.com Web Staff
DETROIT (WXYZ) - In a plea deal announced Friday morning in the courtroom of Judge Vonda Evans, handyman Joe Gentz pleaded guilty to the murder of Jane Bashara of Grosse Pointe Park.
“Bob Bashara promised me money and threatened to kill me,” said Joe Gentz as he read from a document Friday.
Gentz entered a guilty plea to a charge of second degree murder.
Gentz’s deal means he will go to jail for between 17 but no more than 28 years.
His plea means he gave up his right to a jury trial.
Sentencing will take place on January 29, 2013 (Tuesday)
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Posted: 10:30 AM
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• By: WXYZ.com Web Staff
DETROIT (WXYZ) - In a plea deal announced Friday morning in the courtroom of Judge Vonda Evans, handyman Joe Gentz pleaded guilty to the murder of Jane Bashara of Grosse Pointe Park.
“Bob Bashara promised me money and threatened to kill me,” said Joe Gentz as he read from a document Friday.
Gentz entered a guilty plea to a charge of second degree murder.
Gentz’s deal means he will go to jail for between 17 but no more than 28 years.
His plea means he gave up his right to a jury trial.
Sentencing will take place on January 29, 2013 (Tuesday)
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:49 pm
Handyman Joseph Gentz pleads guilty to second-degree murder in Bashara slaying
10:20 AM, December 21, 2012
Handyman Joseph Gentz has pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in exchange for a 17- to 28-year sentence.
In exchange, he agrees to cooperate with prosecutors, testifying he killed Jane Bashara because he was paid and threatened by her husband, Bob Bashara. His official sentencing is scheduled for Jan. 29, 2013.
"I killed Jane Bashara because Bob Bashara offered me money and threatened me," Gentz read to the judge from a statement. He also told the judge that he gave another statement to investigators on Thursday about the killing.
"You're pleading guilty to murder in the second-degree; do you understand that?" Evans asked him.
"Yes, ma'am," replied Gentz, wearing the tan suit he's worn to most court appearances. Judge Vonda Evans is also handling today the sentencing of four men convicted of kidnapping and murdering Hamtramck best friends Ashley Conaway and Abreeya Brown.
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10:20 AM, December 21, 2012
Handyman Joseph Gentz has pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in exchange for a 17- to 28-year sentence.
In exchange, he agrees to cooperate with prosecutors, testifying he killed Jane Bashara because he was paid and threatened by her husband, Bob Bashara. His official sentencing is scheduled for Jan. 29, 2013.
"I killed Jane Bashara because Bob Bashara offered me money and threatened me," Gentz read to the judge from a statement. He also told the judge that he gave another statement to investigators on Thursday about the killing.
"You're pleading guilty to murder in the second-degree; do you understand that?" Evans asked him.
"Yes, ma'am," replied Gentz, wearing the tan suit he's worn to most court appearances. Judge Vonda Evans is also handling today the sentencing of four men convicted of kidnapping and murdering Hamtramck best friends Ashley Conaway and Abreeya Brown.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:09 pm
Joe Gentz, pleads guilty to Jane Bashara murder
Gentz takes plea of 2nd degree murder for killing of Grosse Pointe Park mother Jane Bashara
Published On: Dec 14 2012 11:32:00 AM EST Updated On: Dec 21 2012 10:32:58 AM EST
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DETROIT - The man who confessed to police he was hired to kill Grosse Pointe Park mother was in court Friday.
He pleaded guilty to 2nd degree murder for the killing of Jane Bashara.
Judge Voland Evens told Gentz he could face life in prison with his plea.
But, she said she would likely sentence him to no less than 17 years and a maximum of 28 years in prison.
The official sentencing for Gentz will be on January 29th.
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Gentz takes plea of 2nd degree murder for killing of Grosse Pointe Park mother Jane Bashara
Published On: Dec 14 2012 11:32:00 AM EST Updated On: Dec 21 2012 10:32:58 AM EST
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DETROIT - The man who confessed to police he was hired to kill Grosse Pointe Park mother was in court Friday.
He pleaded guilty to 2nd degree murder for the killing of Jane Bashara.
Judge Voland Evens told Gentz he could face life in prison with his plea.
But, she said she would likely sentence him to no less than 17 years and a maximum of 28 years in prison.
The official sentencing for Gentz will be on January 29th.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:34 pm
Joe Gentz Pleads Guilty to Second-Degree Murder in Death of Jane Bashara
The handyman told the court that Bob Bashara, Jane Bashara's husband, promised him money and threatened him, according to WXYZ and the Detroit Free Press.
By John Hetzler, the author, 11:06 am
... Maria Miller, a spokesperson for the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office, said the investigation into Jane Bashara's death is still open.
"The Jane Bashara homicide case remains under investigation," Miller said in an email. "No other charges are expected at this time."
Gentz’s plea is the latest in a case that has stunned the Grosse Pointe community.
Bob Bashara pleaded guilty to solicitation of murder in October, telling the court he tried to hire a hitman to kill Gentz. He was sentenced to 6-20 years in prison on Dec. 10.
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The handyman told the court that Bob Bashara, Jane Bashara's husband, promised him money and threatened him, according to WXYZ and the Detroit Free Press.
By John Hetzler, the author, 11:06 am
... Maria Miller, a spokesperson for the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office, said the investigation into Jane Bashara's death is still open.
"The Jane Bashara homicide case remains under investigation," Miller said in an email. "No other charges are expected at this time."
Gentz’s plea is the latest in a case that has stunned the Grosse Pointe community.
Bob Bashara pleaded guilty to solicitation of murder in October, telling the court he tried to hire a hitman to kill Gentz. He was sentenced to 6-20 years in prison on Dec. 10.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by One Wonders Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:38 pm
Shoot! I didn't check my Post-it note this am and missed all of this.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:04 pm
I tend to keep it all in my head ... so far, anyhow, i still find it to be the best "Post-it note" around :))))
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:23 pm
[Only admins are allowed to see this link]Darkman wrote:Joe Gentz, pleads guilty to Jane Bashara murder
Gentz takes plea of 2nd degree murder for killing of Grosse Pointe Park mother Jane Bashara
Published On: Dec 14 2012 11:32:00 AM EST Updated On: Dec 21 2012 10:32:58 AM EST
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DETROIT - The man who confessed to police he was hired to kill Grosse Pointe Park mother was in court Friday.
He pleaded guilty to 2nd degree murder for the killing of Jane Bashara.
Judge Voland Evens told Gentz he could face life in prison with his plea.
But, she said she would likely sentence him to no less than 17 years and a maximum of 28 years in prison.
The official sentencing for Gentz will be on January 29th.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by One Wonders Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:22 pm
Darkman wrote:I tend to keep it all in my head ... so far, anyhow, i still find it to be the best "Post-it note" around :))))
I'm glad you can keep it all in your mind. I am following several trials so I have to keep note's on date's. Now, I need to make a note to check my note's on a daily bases I guess, lol.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by CuriousPortlander Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:25 pm
What's next for Bob Bashara after handyman's plea deal?
Published On: Dec 21 2012 04:43:54 PM EST Updated On: Dec 21 2012 05:36:43 PM EST
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"You can pretty much bet the farm that (Bob Bashara) is going to be charged with murder in this case. He is going to be, realistically, be charged after the sentencing. They don't want anything to fall through on the plea. So, some time in February you can expect for him to be charged with murder," said Local 4 legal expert Todd Flood.
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Published On: Dec 21 2012 04:43:54 PM EST Updated On: Dec 21 2012 05:36:43 PM EST
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"You can pretty much bet the farm that (Bob Bashara) is going to be charged with murder in this case. He is going to be, realistically, be charged after the sentencing. They don't want anything to fall through on the plea. So, some time in February you can expect for him to be charged with murder," said Local 4 legal expert Todd Flood.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by CuriousPortlander Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:27 pm
One Wonders wrote:CuriousPortlander wrote:Joe Gentz in court, pretrial hearing moves to Dec. 21th
Published On: Dec 14 2012 11:32:00 AM EST Updated On: Dec 14 2012 11:37:34 AM EST
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This really disturbs me. Why is there a pretrial hearing when he's already confessed? Does he need to be sentenced before charges are brought against BB?
Based on the last article I posted, I guess they are going to wait for Joe to get sentenced before charging Bob. Bummer.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Darkman Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:43 am
You mean .. based on this? :
Like BB is locked up and is staying put for at least 6 years and 2 or 3 months (roughly speaking) .. so no real rush basically .. - the longer they postpone it -- the longer they will keep BB, his attorney and whoever else (including all of us) in suspence...
There are no guarantees in life.. only they know when they are going to charge BB (unless they are not sure themselves yet) ... It might happen whenever basically ... BUT, i also think now, that it's starting to look like they might charge BB after JG is officially sentenced..
"You can pretty much bet the farm that (Bob Bashara) is going to be charged with murder in this case. He is going to be, realistically, be charged after the sentencing. They don't want anything to fall through on the plea. So, some time in February you can expect for him to be charged with murder," said Local 4 legal expert Todd Flood.
Like BB is locked up and is staying put for at least 6 years and 2 or 3 months (roughly speaking) .. so no real rush basically .. - the longer they postpone it -- the longer they will keep BB, his attorney and whoever else (including all of us) in suspence...
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by snowbird Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:07 pm
Thanks for the updates, I had to go Christmas shopping and missed it, I sure hope they have enough to arrest Big Bob now.
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Re: Bashara General Discussion Thread
by Chickenbutt Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:16 pm
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